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<p>[QUOTE="BooksB4Coins, post: 2566146, member: 36230"]With all due respect, sir; no offense was intended, but it matters not how long he's been in business or how respected he supposedly is. Actions/abilities rightfully should speak louder than both, and my post wasn't specific to him. I know so-called "<i>respected dealers</i>", including second generation businesses, but wouldn't trust them to hit more than the general range when grading even the most common of types. Unfortunately, this individual is also respected even if he doesn't deserve it. Seeing Simply owning a business does not make one a knowledgeable professional.</p><p><br /></p><p>Even if the seller expected him to buy according to the now-removed and no longer automatically applicable labels, this doesn't change what you claimed he said to this person. Again, if a "<i>dealer</i>" cannot evaluate coins himself, he's not worth one's time, nor should he be viewed as a professional as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps if collectors stopped settling for or accepting that many so-called "<i>dealers</i>" are not as knowledgeable as they rightfully should be, it would force them to actually learn their own trade and would be an absolute win-win for this hobby. Just to be clear though, this isn't about your friend in particular, but goes for <i><b>ALL</b></i> "<i>dealers</i>", be it shop, show, private, VP, online, eBay, all the above it or whatever.</p><p><br /></p><p>Coins removed from their holders, particularly most keys, are certainly less liquid in their present condition, but this doesn't mean they're no longer of or worthy of their once certified grade or even higher when we account for gradeflation. Depending on what the coins said to a <i>knowledgable</i> individual, it's not outside the realm of possibility that the grades were perfectly reasonable minus any associated costs to get them back into holders, delays, etc. Any idiot can buy and sell coins according to what a third party label says, but only one who has honed his craft can properly do so for himself, and is what separates the men for the boys, or to be more specific, the "<i>dealers</i>" from the simple "<i>sellers</i>".[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BooksB4Coins, post: 2566146, member: 36230"]With all due respect, sir; no offense was intended, but it matters not how long he's been in business or how respected he supposedly is. Actions/abilities rightfully should speak louder than both, and my post wasn't specific to him. I know so-called "[I]respected dealers[/I]", including second generation businesses, but wouldn't trust them to hit more than the general range when grading even the most common of types. Unfortunately, this individual is also respected even if he doesn't deserve it. Seeing Simply owning a business does not make one a knowledgeable professional. Even if the seller expected him to buy according to the now-removed and no longer automatically applicable labels, this doesn't change what you claimed he said to this person. Again, if a "[I]dealer[/I]" cannot evaluate coins himself, he's not worth one's time, nor should he be viewed as a professional as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps if collectors stopped settling for or accepting that many so-called "[I]dealers[/I]" are not as knowledgeable as they rightfully should be, it would force them to actually learn their own trade and would be an absolute win-win for this hobby. Just to be clear though, this isn't about your friend in particular, but goes for [I][B]ALL[/B][/I] "[I]dealers[/I]", be it shop, show, private, VP, online, eBay, all the above it or whatever. Coins removed from their holders, particularly most keys, are certainly less liquid in their present condition, but this doesn't mean they're no longer of or worthy of their once certified grade or even higher when we account for gradeflation. Depending on what the coins said to a [I]knowledgable[/I] individual, it's not outside the realm of possibility that the grades were perfectly reasonable minus any associated costs to get them back into holders, delays, etc. Any idiot can buy and sell coins according to what a third party label says, but only one who has honed his craft can properly do so for himself, and is what separates the men for the boys, or to be more specific, the "[I]dealers[/I]" from the simple "[I]sellers[/I]".[/QUOTE]
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