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<p>[QUOTE="CoinGal07, post: 309905, member: 8843"]While I agree it was a little tough to SRK's response it was still very interesting. And this thread like many others is treading into different directions - much like any other conversation.</p><p> </p><p>I stand by my original comment of 'what goes around, comes around' and in buying and selling coins for your collection regardless of profit, you have to consider the other person.</p><p> </p><p>I have sat in many coin shops and watched people walk into the store, their first time ever, to sell their coins or collections and start their conversations to the dealer with ' I have no idea what this is or what it's worth I just want to sell it '. Makes you wonder 'where'd you get it? Did you steal it? Did you just 'win' it with the inheritance lottery? </p><p> </p><p>I can't imagine anyone walking in to buy their first car, home or computer without research or taking an educated and informed person with them for support so they don't 'get ripped off'. Why is it people think 'coins' should be any different?</p><p> </p><p>The other scenario is the people who walk in with coins they've self 'valued' (again, w/o an informed partner) based on the MS70 column in RedBook or winning bid on Teletrade or Ebay and expect their coins, pulled from the baseboard of an old house and freshly cleaned with TarnX to be the same value ~ and accuse the dealer of ripping them off even as he patiently pulls the ANA Grading guide out to explain the difference. Usually, they don't want to hear it. </p><p> </p><p>And I've seen people walk in with rare, key date coins and the dealer offer very low bids because the coins are raw and they have to protect 'their' investment until they can get them authenticated by a third party grader in the event the coins are well crafted counterfeits. After all, what are the odds that this 'stranger', walking in for the first time, would have a 5 key date coins, and that's all? Where's the rest?? </p><p> </p><p>I've watched dealers patiently explain how to send the coins in to get them authenticated and how that will improve the possible value of the coins for that person to sell them, and they (the seller) just snatch the coins back in anger and storm out the door.</p><p> </p><p>I have watched these type things and wonder how they do it all day long, day after day, without losing their minds and integrity, but they don't. </p><p> </p><p>Not all dealers are evil. It's the stories told by those who leave disappointed that their worn, fake, damaged, cleaned or stolen coins aren't worth a million dollars that leads to the same reputation unfairly earned. It's just like sellers on Ebay. There are some honest, trustworthy sellers there as well but most of the time it's the 'obviously dishonest' sellers that get listed here for discussion.</p><p> </p><p>In the laws of attraction - you attract the thing that you devote your energy to. Yes, I know that's grammatically incorrect. Point is though, if you only focus on evil dealers, ripoff ebay sellers, and heartless cherry pickers .. that's what you'll attract back to you. </p><p> </p><p>Color me blindly optimistic but I like to this this hobby has far more honest and trustworthy buyers and sellers than we ever give credit to; those that leave it because they were ripped off were most likely 'asking' for it by trying to make it a 'get rich quick' venture rather than the true intention of the hobby - enjoying the coins for the coins.</p><p> </p><p>This concludes my thread wandering ~ back to our regularly scheduled program.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="CoinGal07, post: 309905, member: 8843"]While I agree it was a little tough to SRK's response it was still very interesting. And this thread like many others is treading into different directions - much like any other conversation. I stand by my original comment of 'what goes around, comes around' and in buying and selling coins for your collection regardless of profit, you have to consider the other person. I have sat in many coin shops and watched people walk into the store, their first time ever, to sell their coins or collections and start their conversations to the dealer with ' I have no idea what this is or what it's worth I just want to sell it '. Makes you wonder 'where'd you get it? Did you steal it? Did you just 'win' it with the inheritance lottery? I can't imagine anyone walking in to buy their first car, home or computer without research or taking an educated and informed person with them for support so they don't 'get ripped off'. Why is it people think 'coins' should be any different? The other scenario is the people who walk in with coins they've self 'valued' (again, w/o an informed partner) based on the MS70 column in RedBook or winning bid on Teletrade or Ebay and expect their coins, pulled from the baseboard of an old house and freshly cleaned with TarnX to be the same value ~ and accuse the dealer of ripping them off even as he patiently pulls the ANA Grading guide out to explain the difference. Usually, they don't want to hear it. And I've seen people walk in with rare, key date coins and the dealer offer very low bids because the coins are raw and they have to protect 'their' investment until they can get them authenticated by a third party grader in the event the coins are well crafted counterfeits. After all, what are the odds that this 'stranger', walking in for the first time, would have a 5 key date coins, and that's all? Where's the rest?? I've watched dealers patiently explain how to send the coins in to get them authenticated and how that will improve the possible value of the coins for that person to sell them, and they (the seller) just snatch the coins back in anger and storm out the door. I have watched these type things and wonder how they do it all day long, day after day, without losing their minds and integrity, but they don't. Not all dealers are evil. It's the stories told by those who leave disappointed that their worn, fake, damaged, cleaned or stolen coins aren't worth a million dollars that leads to the same reputation unfairly earned. It's just like sellers on Ebay. There are some honest, trustworthy sellers there as well but most of the time it's the 'obviously dishonest' sellers that get listed here for discussion. In the laws of attraction - you attract the thing that you devote your energy to. Yes, I know that's grammatically incorrect. Point is though, if you only focus on evil dealers, ripoff ebay sellers, and heartless cherry pickers .. that's what you'll attract back to you. Color me blindly optimistic but I like to this this hobby has far more honest and trustworthy buyers and sellers than we ever give credit to; those that leave it because they were ripped off were most likely 'asking' for it by trying to make it a 'get rich quick' venture rather than the true intention of the hobby - enjoying the coins for the coins. This concludes my thread wandering ~ back to our regularly scheduled program.[/QUOTE]
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