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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2265055, member: 19463"]Alexandria is a good place to look if you like worn coins since they seemed to circulate forever. Hadrian and elephants would be a nice coin a few hundred transactions ago. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]450327[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>This Claudius sestertius (or Gallic copy thereof) was worn enough that it was revalued down to a dupondius. In all honesty, I think the DV countermark downgrade was only applied to unofficial coins making them official but at a lower value. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]450329[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>This may be 'sudden' wear but is hardly 'honest'. I have a theory that this coin acquired the weak/worn obverse by being the coin that stuck in the reverse die and created the next coin struck as a brockage. In the process the high points were considerably mashed and the extra strike added edge splits. Can I prove this? Certainly not but it is not the most outlandish theory in numismatics and I have never seen anyone label a coin as the brockage maker. What would such a coin look like? Like this. Meanwhile it is a rare Emesa Septimius with IIC obverse and INVICTO IMP TROPAEA reverse. Obviously I would looove to find an obverse brockage of this die and would looooove it more if the letters SEPSE on the obverse were less well incused since those letters were squashed less here. The chances of finding a pair like this would be lower than getting an EID MAR in an uncleaned lot but I'd go into perma-smile mode for sure. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]450331[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2265055, member: 19463"]Alexandria is a good place to look if you like worn coins since they seemed to circulate forever. Hadrian and elephants would be a nice coin a few hundred transactions ago. [ATTACH=full]450327[/ATTACH] This Claudius sestertius (or Gallic copy thereof) was worn enough that it was revalued down to a dupondius. In all honesty, I think the DV countermark downgrade was only applied to unofficial coins making them official but at a lower value. [ATTACH=full]450329[/ATTACH] This may be 'sudden' wear but is hardly 'honest'. I have a theory that this coin acquired the weak/worn obverse by being the coin that stuck in the reverse die and created the next coin struck as a brockage. In the process the high points were considerably mashed and the extra strike added edge splits. Can I prove this? Certainly not but it is not the most outlandish theory in numismatics and I have never seen anyone label a coin as the brockage maker. What would such a coin look like? Like this. Meanwhile it is a rare Emesa Septimius with IIC obverse and INVICTO IMP TROPAEA reverse. Obviously I would looove to find an obverse brockage of this die and would looooove it more if the letters SEPSE on the obverse were less well incused since those letters were squashed less here. The chances of finding a pair like this would be lower than getting an EID MAR in an uncleaned lot but I'd go into perma-smile mode for sure. [ATTACH=full]450331[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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