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<p>[QUOTE="ToughCOINS, post: 25867129, member: 20480"]To add to this 3 year old discussion, I've finally found a very clear illustration of the direction in which planchet metal first flows.</p><p><br /></p><p>The 1839-O Dime pictured below (photos courtesy of Bob Streets - very nice coin, by the way) has failed to fill in on the central obverse, despite grading full XF / AU. This is because the planchet volume intended for the central design was consumed by the collar cuds on the obverse rim (1:00-4:00 & 4:00-6:00).</p><p><br /></p><p>After the outward flowing metal is fully constrained, the central devices next become the path of least resistance.</p><p><br /></p><p>To reiterate a point I made earlier in this thread, consider the coin to be a pie cut into slices (Yes, Virginia, it's true that the flow lines creating cartwheel luster on a coin are <i>not</i> parallel). The cross-sectional flow-area of each slice is twice at the rim what it is halfway to the center. The resistance to flow across the smaller area halfway from the center to the rim will be twice what it is at the rim. This is why planchet metal almost always flows first toward the rim, and then fills the central devices afterward.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1648590[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1648591[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>If the central devices are of limited surface area and of low relief, and if peripheral devices are considerable, this will exacerbate the delay in filling the central devices.</p><p><br /></p><p>Conversely, if the central devices are expansive, and of high relief, and if there are few peripheral devices, the centrals will fill much sooner, but still after the rim.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hopefully this helps folks understand, not only the predominant flow direction discussed in this thread, but also why coin designs must go through many changes to arrive at what works.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ToughCOINS, post: 25867129, member: 20480"]To add to this 3 year old discussion, I've finally found a very clear illustration of the direction in which planchet metal first flows. The 1839-O Dime pictured below (photos courtesy of Bob Streets - very nice coin, by the way) has failed to fill in on the central obverse, despite grading full XF / AU. This is because the planchet volume intended for the central design was consumed by the collar cuds on the obverse rim (1:00-4:00 & 4:00-6:00). After the outward flowing metal is fully constrained, the central devices next become the path of least resistance. To reiterate a point I made earlier in this thread, consider the coin to be a pie cut into slices (Yes, Virginia, it's true that the flow lines creating cartwheel luster on a coin are [I]not[/I] parallel). The cross-sectional flow-area of each slice is twice at the rim what it is halfway to the center. The resistance to flow across the smaller area halfway from the center to the rim will be twice what it is at the rim. This is why planchet metal almost always flows first toward the rim, and then fills the central devices afterward. [ATTACH=full]1648590[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1648591[/ATTACH] If the central devices are of limited surface area and of low relief, and if peripheral devices are considerable, this will exacerbate the delay in filling the central devices. Conversely, if the central devices are expansive, and of high relief, and if there are few peripheral devices, the centrals will fill much sooner, but still after the rim. Hopefully this helps folks understand, not only the predominant flow direction discussed in this thread, but also why coin designs must go through many changes to arrive at what works.[/QUOTE]
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