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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Drusus, post: 520897, member: 6370&quot;]Safes arent very expensive and if you get the right one and install it right its going to be more trouble than its worth for most crooks who might enter your house.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>If your safe is not bolted down, you might as well just be putting your money in a cardboard box. First they have to get into my house which is almost always occupied, thus they will have to deal with the people who have easy access to firearms and 2 big dogs who hate people inside their house, if they wait for us to leave...then they better hope we stay gone for quite some time because my safe has 8 thick heavy bolts (4 on each side) keeping it closed and 4 long strong bolts going deep into the foundation. Its going to take real time and real effort just to release the thing from where its bolted and getting it out of the door and into a vehicle (heavy as hell and large). Then they have to get into it which will take a long time unless they are somehow expert safe crackers...and then when the door opens there is a small alarm I made myself that will release a very loud, shrill alarm and in the end, if they are taking this type of time and trouble to get into my safe, they are going to be sorely disappointed with the rewards and their time might be better spent going after a bank or finding someone who has bought a smaller safe that isnt bolted down, or no safe at all. Then again if they look at my house, they might be smart enough to realize I am not wealthy and my safe doesnt have anything priceless and it wont be a big score.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>If any story says they just walked out of the house with a safe, they got the wrong safe. The only reason why I chose the safe and not the bank is the precedence set that shows that if they have any reason (real or contrived) to believe you have something there you shouldnt, or if the government decided again that private ownership of gold is a no-no...or if something like is happening in some places where owning undocumented antiquities (90% of my collection) is criminal...they will go right into that box and take everything with no hesitation.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>A REAL good safe is not that expensive, getting it bolted down is hard but not that bad. Like you say, if someone wants to get into it bad enough, they might find a way so the best bet is to go the route that keeps anyone but yourself from having easy access to it, keeping it in your possession, and take steps to make sure its going to be more effort than its worth...there are just too many people who use easily movable safes, or no safes at all, no alarms systems, too many easy targets to make mine a good choice.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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