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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2703799, member: 112"]Ya think ?</p><p><br /></p><p>I'll tell what is evidence - the coins themselves. All you have to do is look at them as it is as plain as day that what used to be AU in now MS, and up to 64 in some cases. What used to be a 61, is now a 63, a 64 is now a 65 or 66, etc etc etc. And yes, even in the circ grades.</p><p><br /></p><p>And if you can't remember what the coins used to look like just go to some of the auction house web sites and search the older auction archives, look at the pictures of the coins what they were graded then. Then look at the pictures of the coins graded today, compare an old 63 to a new 63, And old 65 to a new 65, and so on and so on.</p><p><br /></p><p>You've only been a member here for a little over a year. But this discussion is as old as the forum itself. And I have saying the same thing for years, quoting sources, articles written by well know dealers, professional graders, and some of the most knowledgeable people there are in numismatics - who all agree with me. You also might want to ask some of the members of this forum for many, if not most, used to disagree with me just like you do. But over the years they have come to the realization that I was right all along and today they do agree with me for they see it themselves.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lastly, are you aware that major dealers and auction houses have employees whose sole job is to go to coin shows, attend auctions, visit dealer shops, and keep an eye on internet sales, just so they can pick out the candidate coins for upgrading ? And they are extremely successful and get paid very high salaries.</p><p><br /></p><p>And if the TPGs had not loosened grading standards, several times, how do you think that could be possible ?</p><p><br /></p><p>But you go right on believing what you want to believe. And just in case you get thirsty, this might come in handy - [ATTACH=full]608950[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2703799, member: 112"]Ya think ? I'll tell what is evidence - the coins themselves. All you have to do is look at them as it is as plain as day that what used to be AU in now MS, and up to 64 in some cases. What used to be a 61, is now a 63, a 64 is now a 65 or 66, etc etc etc. And yes, even in the circ grades. And if you can't remember what the coins used to look like just go to some of the auction house web sites and search the older auction archives, look at the pictures of the coins what they were graded then. Then look at the pictures of the coins graded today, compare an old 63 to a new 63, And old 65 to a new 65, and so on and so on. You've only been a member here for a little over a year. But this discussion is as old as the forum itself. And I have saying the same thing for years, quoting sources, articles written by well know dealers, professional graders, and some of the most knowledgeable people there are in numismatics - who all agree with me. You also might want to ask some of the members of this forum for many, if not most, used to disagree with me just like you do. But over the years they have come to the realization that I was right all along and today they do agree with me for they see it themselves. Lastly, are you aware that major dealers and auction houses have employees whose sole job is to go to coin shows, attend auctions, visit dealer shops, and keep an eye on internet sales, just so they can pick out the candidate coins for upgrading ? And they are extremely successful and get paid very high salaries. And if the TPGs had not loosened grading standards, several times, how do you think that could be possible ? But you go right on believing what you want to believe. And just in case you get thirsty, this might come in handy - [ATTACH=full]608950[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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