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<p>[QUOTE="Hunt1, post: 1393706, member: 25971"]I will say i have not tested any anacs holders, because i don't consider them a good TPG for their current standards, which is just my opinion. I have ripped apart PCGS and NGC holders, and i will say NGC is better made, again my opinion. One thing about PCGS holders though, is that they are a lighter plastic but not cheap plastic. NGC is a tough, heavy plastic, but PCGS is not that cheapy either. I will say that PCGS is more consist on their weld's and their pressure for sonically sealing. NGC sometimes rushes their holders, and i'm not going to give proof of that. I have and i'm sure some of you too; those NGC holders with the curled up label, and recently i have discovered that NGC holders that are not fattys are having this issue;</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.cointalk.com/t201725/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.com/t201725/">http://www.cointalk.com/t201725/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>NGC does have a more secure system though. To my knowledge, PCGS does not have a picture verification system, but just a verification/cert. number lookup. I am probably wrong though, i don't research PCGS slabs that much. NGC does have a verification photo cert. number look up for all slabs that were made pre-edge view holders and edgeview holders, the photo verification started with this generation slab, (again to my knowledge);</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.apmex.com/Resources/Catalog%20Images/Products/65185_Slab.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>All in all, the are basically three main factors to me in a slab;</p><p><br /></p><p>The security, intert material, and sonic sealing. The thickness or quality of plastic to me is not that important, as long as it does not harm the coin. </p><p><br /></p><p>If you have also noticed, PCGS holograms are tougher. Don't believe me? take any screwdriver or metal toothpick to a ngc hologram and a pcgs hologram. Also the PCGS slabs have a more textured finish, to hide scratches, but it is not textured over the coin. Here is the example;</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://images.marketworks.com/hi/75/74793/1944w__1944-d_25c_pcgs_ms65_slab.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS slabs are also more easily counterfitted, why? Because the label offers pretty much NO security features (except for the new secure plus labels), with comparable to NGC. Now, ngc slabs have also been counterfitted, but the weld pressure, label, and hologram all will show that if you take your time in going over the slab.</p><p><br /></p><p>Would you know the difference between a counterfit slab or not?</p><p><img src="http://0.tqn.com/d/coins/1/0/-/D/-/-/fake_pcgs_slab_disgnostics_sbs_1200.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>All this is just my opinion, and i may very well be wrong on any of it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Hunt1, post: 1393706, member: 25971"]I will say i have not tested any anacs holders, because i don't consider them a good TPG for their current standards, which is just my opinion. I have ripped apart PCGS and NGC holders, and i will say NGC is better made, again my opinion. One thing about PCGS holders though, is that they are a lighter plastic but not cheap plastic. NGC is a tough, heavy plastic, but PCGS is not that cheapy either. I will say that PCGS is more consist on their weld's and their pressure for sonically sealing. NGC sometimes rushes their holders, and i'm not going to give proof of that. I have and i'm sure some of you too; those NGC holders with the curled up label, and recently i have discovered that NGC holders that are not fattys are having this issue; [URL]http://www.cointalk.com/t201725/[/URL] NGC does have a more secure system though. To my knowledge, PCGS does not have a picture verification system, but just a verification/cert. number lookup. I am probably wrong though, i don't research PCGS slabs that much. NGC does have a verification photo cert. number look up for all slabs that were made pre-edge view holders and edgeview holders, the photo verification started with this generation slab, (again to my knowledge); [IMG]http://www.apmex.com/Resources/Catalog%20Images/Products/65185_Slab.jpg[/IMG] All in all, the are basically three main factors to me in a slab; The security, intert material, and sonic sealing. The thickness or quality of plastic to me is not that important, as long as it does not harm the coin. If you have also noticed, PCGS holograms are tougher. Don't believe me? take any screwdriver or metal toothpick to a ngc hologram and a pcgs hologram. Also the PCGS slabs have a more textured finish, to hide scratches, but it is not textured over the coin. Here is the example; [IMG]http://images.marketworks.com/hi/75/74793/1944w__1944-d_25c_pcgs_ms65_slab.jpg[/IMG] PCGS slabs are also more easily counterfitted, why? Because the label offers pretty much NO security features (except for the new secure plus labels), with comparable to NGC. Now, ngc slabs have also been counterfitted, but the weld pressure, label, and hologram all will show that if you take your time in going over the slab. Would you know the difference between a counterfit slab or not? [IMG]http://0.tqn.com/d/coins/1/0/-/D/-/-/fake_pcgs_slab_disgnostics_sbs_1200.jpg[/IMG] All this is just my opinion, and i may very well be wrong on any of it.[/QUOTE]
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