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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1242232, member: 112"]No they didn't change it to the way things are made today. In fact, the way Proofs are made today was copied from the way they made them 400 years ago. And I don't mean that the machinery was copied, but rather the method was copied. And THAT'S what Proof is to begin with - a method of manufacture. And that method is, special planchets, special dies, and struck more than once. And that same method has been with us since the beginning. Remember - milled coinage was first invented in 1643. The first Proof coin was struck in 1653 - only 10 years later.</p><p><br /></p><p>And you can't use the definitions of words having to do with various subjects to try and prove your point because every different subject there is ha stheir own unique set of definitions that apply only to that specific subject. The definitons of words having to do with coins are unique to coins.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>That's true to a point, but nevertheless even the first US Proofs were struck from specially prepared dies and specially prepared planchets, and struck more than once. That is the method.</p><p><br /></p><p>What you are trying to do is to use the <u>reason</u> they were struck to define the term instead of the <u>method</u> used to strike them defining the term. Also remember that the reason for Proofs being struck has changed over the years, from that that you describe, to the reason we have today. But while the reason has changed, the method never has. And since Proof is a method of manufacture, well you should get the idea by now.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also remember this, everything there is written in Wikipedia is just a compilation of words written by folks just like you and me. <u>Anybody </u>can go and write in whatever they want in Wikipedia. It is not exactly considered to be a reliable source.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1242232, member: 112"]No they didn't change it to the way things are made today. In fact, the way Proofs are made today was copied from the way they made them 400 years ago. And I don't mean that the machinery was copied, but rather the method was copied. And THAT'S what Proof is to begin with - a method of manufacture. And that method is, special planchets, special dies, and struck more than once. And that same method has been with us since the beginning. Remember - milled coinage was first invented in 1643. The first Proof coin was struck in 1653 - only 10 years later. And you can't use the definitions of words having to do with various subjects to try and prove your point because every different subject there is ha stheir own unique set of definitions that apply only to that specific subject. The definitons of words having to do with coins are unique to coins. That's true to a point, but nevertheless even the first US Proofs were struck from specially prepared dies and specially prepared planchets, and struck more than once. That is the method. What you are trying to do is to use the [U]reason[/U] they were struck to define the term instead of the [U]method[/U] used to strike them defining the term. Also remember that the reason for Proofs being struck has changed over the years, from that that you describe, to the reason we have today. But while the reason has changed, the method never has. And since Proof is a method of manufacture, well you should get the idea by now. Also remember this, everything there is written in Wikipedia is just a compilation of words written by folks just like you and me. [U]Anybody [/U]can go and write in whatever they want in Wikipedia. It is not exactly considered to be a reliable source.[/QUOTE]
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