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<p>[QUOTE="Mike Margolis, post: 3041401, member: 88401"][ATTACH=full]759280[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]759283[/ATTACH] </p><p>I am not looking to convince you Sevy but it is a good discourse to have. The contemporary effect of both Jewish revolts was enormous. <span style="color: #ff0000">First </span>it insured what is called the Jewish Diaspora. So by sending the Jews all around the world it guaranteed their survival into our present times(along with continued persecution) and this had profound religious significance but beyond the parameters of this discussion. Some Jewish historians believe that if the Jews had remained in Judaea they could have been fully wiped out a few centuries later by the physical and early on unrelenting "sword of Islam". The <span style="color: #ff0000">second</span> great impact was that it helped cause the complete conversion of the entire Roman empire from what was just a little "upstart branch of Judaism" which is being celebrated this very day by maybe? two billion or so folks. There is a fundamental principle that may be seen repeated throughout history. When a vast conquering power attempts to subdue and or eliminate a small divergent people within it's boundaries in just a couple of centuries the religious practices of the subdued people spread to the entire population. Just look at how Native American religious practice has spread throughout America(beads and long hair and sweat lodge ceremonies) after a vast attempt to remove them and their culture in "manifest destiny". A <span style="color: #ff0000">third</span> big contemporary impact was that it proved to all the other divergent provinces of the Roman empire that it was possible if not at first anyway to challenge the vast power of the legions( ie Masada) and win at least to some extent. They could be challenged(if not fully defeated physically) with enough courage and determination. And the valiant attempts won admiration from even future Roman emperors and their families(Nero,Nerva,A.Pius,M.Aurelius and Caracalla according to the Talmud)) as we see the history unfold. The <span style="color: #ff0000">fourth</span> huge contemporary impact was that it proved that a people could achieve a continued religious/cultural freedom even if they lost their homeland and their political sovereignty. The<span style="color: #ff0000"> fifth</span> great impact of the revolts was on the history of numismatics itself. The use of coinage itself as a political resistance and proclamation of sovereignty and personal freedom was raised to great heights.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Mike Margolis, post: 3041401, member: 88401"][ATTACH=full]759280[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]759283[/ATTACH] I am not looking to convince you Sevy but it is a good discourse to have. The contemporary effect of both Jewish revolts was enormous. [COLOR=#ff0000]First [/COLOR]it insured what is called the Jewish Diaspora. So by sending the Jews all around the world it guaranteed their survival into our present times(along with continued persecution) and this had profound religious significance but beyond the parameters of this discussion. Some Jewish historians believe that if the Jews had remained in Judaea they could have been fully wiped out a few centuries later by the physical and early on unrelenting "sword of Islam". The [COLOR=#ff0000]second[/COLOR] great impact was that it helped cause the complete conversion of the entire Roman empire from what was just a little "upstart branch of Judaism" which is being celebrated this very day by maybe? two billion or so folks. There is a fundamental principle that may be seen repeated throughout history. When a vast conquering power attempts to subdue and or eliminate a small divergent people within it's boundaries in just a couple of centuries the religious practices of the subdued people spread to the entire population. Just look at how Native American religious practice has spread throughout America(beads and long hair and sweat lodge ceremonies) after a vast attempt to remove them and their culture in "manifest destiny". A [COLOR=#ff0000]third[/COLOR] big contemporary impact was that it proved to all the other divergent provinces of the Roman empire that it was possible if not at first anyway to challenge the vast power of the legions( ie Masada) and win at least to some extent. They could be challenged(if not fully defeated physically) with enough courage and determination. And the valiant attempts won admiration from even future Roman emperors and their families(Nero,Nerva,A.Pius,M.Aurelius and Caracalla according to the Talmud)) as we see the history unfold. The [COLOR=#ff0000]fourth[/COLOR] huge contemporary impact was that it proved that a people could achieve a continued religious/cultural freedom even if they lost their homeland and their political sovereignty. The[COLOR=#ff0000] fifth[/COLOR] great impact of the revolts was on the history of numismatics itself. The use of coinage itself as a political resistance and proclamation of sovereignty and personal freedom was raised to great heights.[/QUOTE]
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