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Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Truth1253, Oct 7, 2017.

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  1. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Is anyone checking over at Pcgs on " Codes " before they post ?
     
    Rick Stachowski, Oct 8, 2017
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  3. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Same here, if I had MUCH deeper pockets than I actually do.
     
    lordmarcovan, Oct 8, 2017
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  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Metal movement is one of the criteria for a code 98, but there is more. A coin can be damaged in many ways. This is the full explanation found on their website, but even that doesn't cover everything.

    The numerical code of 98 stands for damage. PCGS defines damages as:

    "Any form of metal movement, either intentional or accidental. Damage may include excessive or heavy rim dings and bruises, deliberate surface damage such as graffiti, attempts to remove spots, etc. The severity and extent of the damage affects whether it will get a "No Grade" decision. Whizzing is the use of a high-speed, rotating wheel to buff the surfaces of a coin, which actually moves the metal on the surface and leaves ridges on many of the devices."
     
    GDJMSP, Oct 8, 2017
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  6. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Yes. There's graffiti in the hair and damage on the neck. Damage covers more than just whizzing and not seeing any unnatural luster there from the small picture on my screen
     
    baseball21, Oct 8, 2017
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I too am having some issues with seeing detail in the pictures. I don't see any graffiti?
     
    lordmarcovan, Oct 8, 2017
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  8. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Just above the ear in the hair. There's a vertical rectangle with a line through the middle making two boxes or looks like it anyway from what I can see. Appears to be light though and only visible dead on.
     
    baseball21, Oct 8, 2017
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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I could live with that, on a high grade Bust dollar, if the price was right. Would still rather have one 10 points or so lower and problem free, but minor issues or not, that's a lovely coin in the OP.
     
    lordmarcovan, Oct 8, 2017
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  10. IBetASilverDollar

    IBetASilverDollar Well-Known Member

    yep, beautiful coin
     
    IBetASilverDollar, Oct 8, 2017
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  11. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    Regardless of the details grade, it's still a lovely early date coin that I'd love to have.
     
    wxcoin, Oct 8, 2017
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  12. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I found the listing. It's up to 2,600 with four days remaining. Someone's going to overpay for it the way that it's going. It's worth noting that the seller has zero feedback.
     
    Kirkuleez, Oct 8, 2017
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  13. fish4uinmd

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  14. fish4uinmd

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  15. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    Rick, just saw your post...
     
    fish4uinmd, Oct 8, 2017
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  16. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Okay! I misunderstood your first comment.

    Chris
     
    cpm9ball, Oct 8, 2017
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  17. VDB

    VDB Active Member

    Might be dirt, but looks like she may have dings on her chest.


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    VDB, Oct 15, 2017
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  18. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    What'd it end at?
     
    baseball21, Oct 15, 2017
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  19. mlov43

    mlov43 주화 수집가

    Ended after 62 bids... (drumroll)...at...$4,400.00(!)
    (that's in United States Dollars, people).

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    mlov43, Oct 15, 2017
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  20. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    I wouldn't waste much time trying to determine what motivates the "top tier" TPG to place a coin in a "details" slab. I've been "cross-grading" scarce relatively expensive Gold classic U.S. coins between the top two TPG. The results are very interesting. I've even offered some of the errors here at "melt" to see how the experienced might recognize value.

    An example is this 1852 Double Eagle that after being removed from a graded slab and submitted to NGC, came back in a details slab, where I offered it here at melt. No Takers/interest! Upon re-submission, it reported is being returned as a ~$5k value straight-graded coin.

    This has occurred on numerous occasions, so I'd just suggest, as myself and others have apparently done, buy the coin based on personal intellect/knowledge.

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/sc...tication-costs-1350-raw-apmex-cleaned.302502/

    JMHO
     
    imrich, Oct 16, 2017
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  21. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I immediately noticed the graffiti in the hair. It's still a nice coin, but not worth $4k to me... and 0 feedback on eBay is a red flag. Too risky.
     
    micbraun, Oct 16, 2017
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