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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 4590080, member: 66"]NCI was a strange company.</p><p><br /></p><p>Steve Ivy formed Heritage in 1976, and was joined by Jim Halperin in 1982. In the mid 80's Jim Halperin created NCI grading service. Exactly when he created it is a bit open to question. Some references say 1986. Jim's book The NCI Grading Guide says it was started in 1985. The first NCI certificate is copyrighted and dated in 1984.</p><p><br /></p><p>Then there is the question of NCI's relationship to Heritage. Heritage says there is no connection between them and NCI. Yet NCI was formed by one of their current partners, In the mid to late 80's Heritage listed a LOT of NCI graded coins on their fixed price lists, and other than on the first grading certificate NCI's address was listed as 311 Market St. Dallas, TX. Which was, surprise surprise, the Heritage building. So was there a connection? Heritage says no, I suspect yes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Another question is when did the close their doors? On this I am unsure. I know they were open til at least 1990, and I know they were closed by 1992. Exactly when they closed down I can't say.</p><p><br /></p><p>While they were in operation they used 8 different generations of photocertificate, and one hard plastic slab. I know the slab was used in conjunction with generations 7 and 8, and may have been used on its own at the end of the companies run (but if it was I would expect a change in the verbiage on the back of the slab. You can't require the presence of the certificate to qualify for the grading guarantee if you aren't issuing certificates.</p><p><br /></p><p>Another problem is trying to determine the emission order of certificate generations 2 through 8. In my book I tried to order them the best I could based on the earliest and latest dates seen on the certificates. But ALL the date ranges overlap. I seems like they must have ordered certificate styles in different batches whenever they got low and then just grabbed whatever certificate was handy. For example most of the NCI 6 certificates are dated 1987 and 88, and the copyright is also 1987. But the earliest NCI 6 certificate is dated 3/5/86! That is before the earliest NCI 2 certificate I've seen. I'm not sure how you can issue a certificate almost a year before the copyright date on the certificate.</p><p><br /></p><p>Another odd thing. Although supposedly they started in 1985, and I have a certificate dated in 1984, I have never seen an NCI certificate dated in 1985.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the late 80's NCI was looked down upon among the dealers I knew and worked with. It was ranked below that of Accugrade. and was considered a joke. But after they closed their doors, for about a decade and a half the Coin Dealers Newsletter hade a table in each issue that ranked the grading services and what their coins would be "worth" as a percentage of the CDN prices. PCGS was always rated highest, but NCI was rated very high as well, often as #2! So there seemed to be a real disconnect between how the dealers at the shows saw NCI and how the Graysheet saw them. Plus the fact they were still being listed more than a decade after they closed even though you seldom saw them (They were never that common even when they were in operation) was odd.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 4590080, member: 66"]NCI was a strange company. Steve Ivy formed Heritage in 1976, and was joined by Jim Halperin in 1982. In the mid 80's Jim Halperin created NCI grading service. Exactly when he created it is a bit open to question. Some references say 1986. Jim's book The NCI Grading Guide says it was started in 1985. The first NCI certificate is copyrighted and dated in 1984. Then there is the question of NCI's relationship to Heritage. Heritage says there is no connection between them and NCI. Yet NCI was formed by one of their current partners, In the mid to late 80's Heritage listed a LOT of NCI graded coins on their fixed price lists, and other than on the first grading certificate NCI's address was listed as 311 Market St. Dallas, TX. Which was, surprise surprise, the Heritage building. So was there a connection? Heritage says no, I suspect yes. Another question is when did the close their doors? On this I am unsure. I know they were open til at least 1990, and I know they were closed by 1992. Exactly when they closed down I can't say. While they were in operation they used 8 different generations of photocertificate, and one hard plastic slab. I know the slab was used in conjunction with generations 7 and 8, and may have been used on its own at the end of the companies run (but if it was I would expect a change in the verbiage on the back of the slab. You can't require the presence of the certificate to qualify for the grading guarantee if you aren't issuing certificates. Another problem is trying to determine the emission order of certificate generations 2 through 8. In my book I tried to order them the best I could based on the earliest and latest dates seen on the certificates. But ALL the date ranges overlap. I seems like they must have ordered certificate styles in different batches whenever they got low and then just grabbed whatever certificate was handy. For example most of the NCI 6 certificates are dated 1987 and 88, and the copyright is also 1987. But the earliest NCI 6 certificate is dated 3/5/86! That is before the earliest NCI 2 certificate I've seen. I'm not sure how you can issue a certificate almost a year before the copyright date on the certificate. Another odd thing. Although supposedly they started in 1985, and I have a certificate dated in 1984, I have never seen an NCI certificate dated in 1985. In the late 80's NCI was looked down upon among the dealers I knew and worked with. It was ranked below that of Accugrade. and was considered a joke. But after they closed their doors, for about a decade and a half the Coin Dealers Newsletter hade a table in each issue that ranked the grading services and what their coins would be "worth" as a percentage of the CDN prices. PCGS was always rated highest, but NCI was rated very high as well, often as #2! So there seemed to be a real disconnect between how the dealers at the shows saw NCI and how the Graysheet saw them. Plus the fact they were still being listed more than a decade after they closed even though you seldom saw them (They were never that common even when they were in operation) was odd.[/QUOTE]
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