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<p>[QUOTE="Numismat, post: 1922116, member: 15019"]They have already been making "first rate" copies of common date, mint state Morgans and also Mexican cap and ray type 8 reales from correct purity silver. Which they then sell for $30-$40 and higher on eBay. Had several dozen pulled a couple of months ago, and several dozen were sold without being pulled.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are a few examples.</p><p><br /></p><p>Morgans:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1886-Morgan-Dollar-unc-/161265583363?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item258c2d8503&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1886-Morgan-Dollar-unc-/161265583363?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item258c2d8503&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1886-Morgan-Dollar-unc-/161265583363?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item258c2d8503&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1904-O-Morgan-Dollar-unc-/161272332228?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item258c947fc4&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1904-O-Morgan-Dollar-unc-/161272332228?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item258c947fc4&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1904-O-Morgan-Dollar-unc-/161272332228?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item258c947fc4&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-UNITED-STATES-MORGAN-DOIIAR-/221412155538?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item338d316092&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-UNITED-STATES-MORGAN-DOIIAR-/221412155538?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item338d316092&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-UNITED-STATES-MORGAN-DOIIAR-/221412155538?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item338d316092&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557</a></p><p><br /></p><p>8 reales:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1884-Mexico-8-Reales-/161254270169?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item258b80e4d9&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1884-Mexico-8-Reales-/161254270169?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item258b80e4d9&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1884-Mexico-8-Reales-/161254270169?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item258b80e4d9&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-Mexico-8-Reales-/161265551017?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item258c2d06a9&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-Mexico-8-Reales-/161265551017?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item258c2d06a9&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-Mexico-8-Reales-/161265551017?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item258c2d06a9&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1886-Mexico-8-Reales-/161265552700?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item258c2d0d3c&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1886-Mexico-8-Reales-/161265552700?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item258c2d0d3c&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1886-Mexico-8-Reales-/161265552700?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item258c2d0d3c&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1876-MEXICO-MO-8R-/221412142028?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338d312bcc&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1876-MEXICO-MO-8R-/221412142028?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338d312bcc&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1876-MEXICO-MO-8R-/221412142028?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338d312bcc&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1874-MEXICO-MO-8R-/221395942386?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c39fbf2&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1874-MEXICO-MO-8R-/221395942386?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c39fbf2&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1874-MEXICO-MO-8R-/221395942386?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c39fbf2&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1887-MEXICO-MO-8R-/221401214079?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c8a6c7f&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1887-MEXICO-MO-8R-/221401214079?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c8a6c7f&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1887-MEXICO-MO-8R-/221401214079?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c8a6c7f&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Misc:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/British-India-Queen-Victoria-One-Rupee-1862-/221401291995?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c8b9cdb&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/British-India-Queen-Victoria-One-Rupee-1862-/221401291995?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c8b9cdb&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/British-India-Queen-Victoria-One-Rupee-1862-/221401291995?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c8b9cdb&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scarce-Italy-Kingdom-of-Napoleon-silver-5-lire-1813-/221401298507?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c8bb64b&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scarce-Italy-Kingdom-of-Napoleon-silver-5-lire-1813-/221401298507?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c8bb64b&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scarce-Italy-Kingdom-of-Napoleon-silver-5-lire-1813-/221401298507?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c8bb64b&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/GREAT-BRITAIN-QUEEN-VICTORIA-1847-GOTHIC-CROWN-/271478836530?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3f35664d32&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/GREAT-BRITAIN-QUEEN-VICTORIA-1847-GOTHIC-CROWN-/271478836530?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3f35664d32&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/GREAT-BRITAIN-QUEEN-VICTORIA-1847-GOTHIC-CROWN-/271478836530?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3f35664d32&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557</a></p><p><br /></p><p>There are three seller id's here, which are run by the same folks. They had about another 7 or 8 id's that were banned after being reported.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've also seen them do this with gold coins, but not nearly as frequently.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Numismat, post: 1922116, member: 15019"]They have already been making "first rate" copies of common date, mint state Morgans and also Mexican cap and ray type 8 reales from correct purity silver. Which they then sell for $30-$40 and higher on eBay. Had several dozen pulled a couple of months ago, and several dozen were sold without being pulled. Here are a few examples. Morgans: [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/1886-Morgan-Dollar-unc-/161265583363?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item258c2d8503&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557']http://www.ebay.com/itm/1886-Morgan-Dollar-unc-/161265583363?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item258c2d8503&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/URL] [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/1904-O-Morgan-Dollar-unc-/161272332228?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item258c947fc4&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557']http://www.ebay.com/itm/1904-O-Morgan-Dollar-unc-/161272332228?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item258c947fc4&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/URL] [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-UNITED-STATES-MORGAN-DOIIAR-/221412155538?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item338d316092&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557']http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-UNITED-STATES-MORGAN-DOIIAR-/221412155538?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item338d316092&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/URL] 8 reales: [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/1884-Mexico-8-Reales-/161254270169?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item258b80e4d9&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557']http://www.ebay.com/itm/1884-Mexico-8-Reales-/161254270169?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item258b80e4d9&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/URL] [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-Mexico-8-Reales-/161265551017?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item258c2d06a9&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557']http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-Mexico-8-Reales-/161265551017?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item258c2d06a9&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/URL] [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/1886-Mexico-8-Reales-/161265552700?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item258c2d0d3c&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557']http://www.ebay.com/itm/1886-Mexico-8-Reales-/161265552700?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item258c2d0d3c&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/URL] [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/1876-MEXICO-MO-8R-/221412142028?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338d312bcc&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557']http://www.ebay.com/itm/1876-MEXICO-MO-8R-/221412142028?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338d312bcc&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/URL] [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/1874-MEXICO-MO-8R-/221395942386?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c39fbf2&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557']http://www.ebay.com/itm/1874-MEXICO-MO-8R-/221395942386?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c39fbf2&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/URL] [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/1887-MEXICO-MO-8R-/221401214079?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c8a6c7f&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557']http://www.ebay.com/itm/1887-MEXICO-MO-8R-/221401214079?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c8a6c7f&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/URL] Misc: [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/British-India-Queen-Victoria-One-Rupee-1862-/221401291995?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c8b9cdb&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557']http://www.ebay.com/itm/British-India-Queen-Victoria-One-Rupee-1862-/221401291995?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c8b9cdb&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/URL] [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scarce-Italy-Kingdom-of-Napoleon-silver-5-lire-1813-/221401298507?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c8bb64b&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557']http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scarce-Italy-Kingdom-of-Napoleon-silver-5-lire-1813-/221401298507?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item338c8bb64b&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/URL] [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/GREAT-BRITAIN-QUEEN-VICTORIA-1847-GOTHIC-CROWN-/271478836530?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3f35664d32&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557']http://www.ebay.com/itm/GREAT-BRITAIN-QUEEN-VICTORIA-1847-GOTHIC-CROWN-/271478836530?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3f35664d32&nma=true&si=diboWnZdqYTmcdsv478uE9JZpHk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/URL] There are three seller id's here, which are run by the same folks. They had about another 7 or 8 id's that were banned after being reported. I've also seen them do this with gold coins, but not nearly as frequently.[/QUOTE]
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