Here you go, Cascade.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by SuperDave, Aug 17, 2016.

  1. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Yes, it's a Morgan. Get over it. :)

    What's the grade, and what's the significance? I did not shoot these images, and as far as I know (I may be wrong) they've never been seen in public before.

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  3. phankins11

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  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I'm not sayin' nuttin until @Cascade does.

    Chris
     
  5. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Gut says 65 dmpl. Significance WOW! An eds of v80! DROOL :)

    How'd I do, nail on head? :smuggrin::pompous: or :(
     
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  6. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    What does this mean?
     
  7. redcent230

    redcent230 Well-Known Member

  8. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    It means that even Leroy van Allen says this coin is a very hard stage to attribute and I did it in less than 5mins :D *I think*

    http://www.vamworld.com/1878-P VAM-80
     
  9. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Except you're wrong. :p
     
  10. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    What!?
     
  11. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Look closer at the reverse.
     
  12. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Smack down now maybe you'll appreciate nickels as the other white coins lol.
     
  13. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Ah, 85. You got me!
     
  14. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Never. #Leroy4Life :)

    And not really. 85 is the veds of 80 that didn't last too long so... Very rare coin!
     
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  15. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    So you were, in a sense, correct - it predates 80 in the obverse progression. :)

    That's the Discovery Coin, NGC 64DPL. Those images have been sitting quietly in my archives since a month after the discovery, and I don't think he sent them to anyone else.
     
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  16. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Wait! Was this "YOUR" B1 discovery dave?
     
  17. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Beat you too it. My brain missed the link that that was "your" DC but it finally clicked lol
     
  18. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    One of the reasons I posted it was that it's a pretty good photographic representation of reflective surfaces on a Morgan. Not hard to tell that it's plainly at least PL, and my friend shot it with a simple point-and-shoot.
     
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  19. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Oh and for those reading this the significance dave is talking about is that this was the first B1 "Long Nock" reverse discovered in 45 years. Discovered in 2010 and the previous B1 discovery was in 1965!
     
  20. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    There's another lesson in that.

    Within days of the release of the news of a new B1, other VAM-85's were found by longtime VAMmers in their existing collections. Even more importantly, yet another new reverse die paired with the VAM-80 obverse - VAM-86 - was found. Any one of a half-dozen other VAMmers, all experienced, could have had a major Discovery Coin (VAM-85 was VAM of the Year in 2010) had they not been complacent and "known" what they had based on cursory examination.

    Look at every single coin like it's the first of the type you've ever seen.
     
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  21. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Early Die State of a VAM80. You need to be a "Vammer" (i.e. Morgan uber-nerd) to understand their lingo ;-)
     
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