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<p>[QUOTE="calcol, post: 26062452, member: 77639"]The main TPGs have slabbed various metal, non-coin objects. They claim only that the label is correct. Commonest non-coin objects are medals and tokens. There is a gray area like the nail that went through a coining press. TPGs won’t slab an object they consider nonauthentic. However, “nonauthentic” may not have the same meaning to them as “counterfeit”; it may be a broader term.</p><p><br /></p><p>An object that was made without government authorization and not in a government-sanctioned facility but has a high resemblance to a coin made or authorized by that government is a counterfeit. At some ill-defined point, the resemblance is not good enough to qualify the object as a counterfeit. For example, I have some 3-inch-wide coasters made to look like Indian head nickels complete with date and denomination. No one is going to call these counterfeits. OK, go ahead; prove me wrong and do it!<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I don’t know where Dan Carr objects fall on the spectrum. In part, this is due to my lack of intimate knowledge of Carr objects and because the definition of “coin” differs among individuals and institutions. The U.S. Mint must be well aware of Carr objects. The Mint and Dan Carr have tables at the same shows. Apparently, the U.S. government does not consider Carr objects as counterfeits or that it’s not worth the effort to stop their production. At this point, if they wanted it stopped, I think they would send a cease-and-desist notice and prosecute only if it was ignored.</p><p><br /></p><p>ANACS grades Carr objects and classifies them as tokens. However, if someone duplicates a Carr object and sends it for grading, it might be returned as “nonauthentic”.</p><p><br /></p><p>Cal[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="calcol, post: 26062452, member: 77639"]The main TPGs have slabbed various metal, non-coin objects. They claim only that the label is correct. Commonest non-coin objects are medals and tokens. There is a gray area like the nail that went through a coining press. TPGs won’t slab an object they consider nonauthentic. However, “nonauthentic” may not have the same meaning to them as “counterfeit”; it may be a broader term. An object that was made without government authorization and not in a government-sanctioned facility but has a high resemblance to a coin made or authorized by that government is a counterfeit. At some ill-defined point, the resemblance is not good enough to qualify the object as a counterfeit. For example, I have some 3-inch-wide coasters made to look like Indian head nickels complete with date and denomination. No one is going to call these counterfeits. OK, go ahead; prove me wrong and do it!:) I don’t know where Dan Carr objects fall on the spectrum. In part, this is due to my lack of intimate knowledge of Carr objects and because the definition of “coin” differs among individuals and institutions. The U.S. Mint must be well aware of Carr objects. The Mint and Dan Carr have tables at the same shows. Apparently, the U.S. government does not consider Carr objects as counterfeits or that it’s not worth the effort to stop their production. At this point, if they wanted it stopped, I think they would send a cease-and-desist notice and prosecute only if it was ignored. ANACS grades Carr objects and classifies them as tokens. However, if someone duplicates a Carr object and sends it for grading, it might be returned as “nonauthentic”. Cal[/QUOTE]
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