Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Jay.72, Dec 7, 2018.
Can anyone help identify these? Not even sure they're coins but a pear to be gold.
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C'mon, really? Can't tell what that stuff is from that photo.
Whatever those things are, they do not even remotely appear to be gold.
They look like lead. Have you seen gold? It's got a gold color. Not grey.
I voted both "5" and "6" in your strange poll, whatever that means.
Maybe some Ancient Dryer coins?
I have my doubts those are even coins.
Lead bag seals.
Yes. They do look like that, now that you mention it.
Some people just can't appreciate dadaism.
I voted 5... but your quite right, it could be 5, 6. I was originally leaning orange anyway.
I vote gray.
I vote grey, because I prefer the "e" spelling.
Okay yeah those pics where a lil fuzzy lol.. I think these are a little better..They're small and I found them while digging for Indian artifacts out on my property,,so I haven't cleaned them,just brushed them off a little..They're soft and may be lead lol, don't know,may even have Levi printed on them somewhere..Anyways I know indians had no monetary system,but they do appear to have some type of design and writing on them.Thanks!
Any holes through the edges?
And you think Indians would print "Levi" on lead seals in a modern alphabet, then? Lead that somehow "a pear"s to you to be gold, despite not having any gold color or brilliance at all?
Nope no holes around the edge, and the Levi thing was just a joke but I see your going to hold me to the Gold issue lol..Not sure really..Okay cool! Lordmarvovan I just found out what they are..appreciate ya!!
'Lordmarcovan' sorry didn't mean to spell your name wrong
Seriously, if you check the edges, you might be able to see the holes where cords once ran through. These lead seals were slid onto a cord that held a bag shut, and then a tool resembling pliers was used to squeeze the lead tightly around the cords.
When pinched shut, the tool often stamped a simple design into the lead seal, like symbols or lettering indicating the company it belonged to, or the contents of the bag.
Old lead seals on your property might be an interesting clue to other stuff out there, but not Indian-related.
The pictures below show a bag seal in use, though it's not round like the ones you found.
(Images borrowed from here.)
Thanks for teaching me something I did not know.
I wouldn't have known if it hadn't been for my metal detecting past.
Here's a nice lead seal I found on a Revolutionary War site outside of Charleston, SC. It has an inscription in Dutch and was used on cloth from the city of Leyden (Leiden).
Usually seals like this did not survive so intact when they were opened. I think it is unusual for the two halves to have pried apart so easily and for that connecting piece to have remained attached to both halves.
I found a worn-out Spanish colonial silver 1-real coin near that seal. It had a Mexico City mintmark and dated to the 1770s (Charles III). The date was worn off, the coin was slightly bent and holed, and someone had crudely carved the initials "S D" into it, but it was a very interesting find. Got some nice buttons on that site, too. It was an interesting place, and very fun to detect.
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