Help!!

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  1. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    I picked this up today at an auction and I'm stumped!!!

    I realize the pictures are far from perfect, but this appears to be some sort of token. The top reads "Andrew Jackson" and the bottom reads "President 1829". I assume the center contained his bust but is now pretty beat up. The reverse is blank.

    Any clues on what this is?

    P.S. Sorry if this belongs in another part of the forum.
    Jackson Token_JPG.jpg Jackson Token Reverse_JPG.jpg
     
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  3. jlogan

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  4. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Is that spot on the back raised?? It looks like a flat button from that time.

    I have no good photos of any of the flat buttons I have but here is one, that lump is where a shank would go.

    The reason I think button is because the front is plain and the back has engraved writing known as backmarks, I have not seen any political backmarks though. Most will say "London" or "Rich Yellow Colour"
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    Not my photo.
     
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  5. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    What is the aprox. diameter?
     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2015
  6. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    Coinman -

    I think you got it. Based on what you suggested, look what I found.

    jackson flat button.jpg

    Thank you.
     
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  7. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Thanks, I have a collection of 30+ flat buttons from the 1750's through around 1840 that I found metal detecting. Around 50% look just like your button except without the same backmarks, that is a pretty awesome button you have there.
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    Again, not my photos.
     
  8. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    I had no clue I was buying a button. . . Just thought it looked cool (and old).:cool:

    Because I haven't a clue about the value of buttons, can you give me a ballpark value guess so that I know how I did? I'll tell you what I paid after you give me your ballpark.
     
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  9. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    It is a collectible button. I'm guessing in the ball park of around $50-$75 or so due to condition and it's variety. Some rare varieties can go for $500.

    Very cool, How much did you pay?
     
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  11. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    By the way, no one else at today's auction knew what it was either.
     
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  12. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    You got a good deal on that button. I hope to find one metal detecting some time.
     
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