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<p>[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 22091102, member: 13650"]Submitting is work and it's expensive. I've done it many times. From filling out the online forms, making sure you didn't miss any boxes, printing the 5 sheets, figuring out which sheets go and which is yours. Getting them in 2x2 slips and labeling each one. Packaging. Finding the right shipping address. (USPS = PO Box address, FedEx/UPS = a different ship address), then sweat it out for the 2 to 3 days for them to receive your box. </p><p> Once it's received you can use your tracking # on the website to make sure they have it. Once they accept it, it does NOT mean they're actually opening it!</p><p> It will sit there in line for a while. Could be days, could be weeks depending on the back log.</p><p><br /></p><p> Eventually they open it up, enter your coins in and charge your card. The actual grading might happen a week or two later. Then it sits in finalizing for a while. Eventually you'll be able to see what your grades are online. Its a costly process that lasts about a month. Turn around times are "only" 20 days at the moment which is better than the 57 days it was in 2021 when the Morgans were dropping. </p><p> This doesn't even address if you end up getting details grades on half your stuff and the disappointment that comes along with that. I'd say I have about a 75% success rate. </p><p><br /></p><p> Its amusing that if you ever go to sell or trade a scarcer (think rare coppers) graded, cleaned coin, the dealers often scoff at it or they say, "I can't sell that" trying to get it cheap. Then I look at a local dealer's list of coins for sale and 80% are graded cleaned/details coins that they're charging full retail for. Likely a cash cow they take advantage of. </p><p><br /></p><p> It is an education though. When you get a details coins back it forces you to pay more attention to what you missed. You will learn if you want to. Unfortunately once you know, you will pass on almost everything you see because there are so many issues to look for. Almost nothing loose has not been messed with over the years. </p><p> Here's one for you. I submitted this one with another batch just for fun to see what it would get. I was guessing MS-62, maybe even a 63. Strong strike, all the details are there! </p><p><br /></p><p> [ATTACH=full]1544203[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p> Nope! This is an AU Details whizzed coin. You can maybe see the fine lines between the buffaloes legs. Under the loupe you can barely make them out. Whatever they used was really good, just don't know why it needed to be whizzed. Good learning tool. I kept it. Now imagine this coin in an ebay auction with crappy pictures. Are people going to pay AU details price for this as a loose coin? This one was particularly tough to spot although it seems obvious to everyone now with the facts laid out after it's all said and done.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 22091102, member: 13650"]Submitting is work and it's expensive. I've done it many times. From filling out the online forms, making sure you didn't miss any boxes, printing the 5 sheets, figuring out which sheets go and which is yours. Getting them in 2x2 slips and labeling each one. Packaging. Finding the right shipping address. (USPS = PO Box address, FedEx/UPS = a different ship address), then sweat it out for the 2 to 3 days for them to receive your box. Once it's received you can use your tracking # on the website to make sure they have it. Once they accept it, it does NOT mean they're actually opening it! It will sit there in line for a while. Could be days, could be weeks depending on the back log. Eventually they open it up, enter your coins in and charge your card. The actual grading might happen a week or two later. Then it sits in finalizing for a while. Eventually you'll be able to see what your grades are online. Its a costly process that lasts about a month. Turn around times are "only" 20 days at the moment which is better than the 57 days it was in 2021 when the Morgans were dropping. This doesn't even address if you end up getting details grades on half your stuff and the disappointment that comes along with that. I'd say I have about a 75% success rate. Its amusing that if you ever go to sell or trade a scarcer (think rare coppers) graded, cleaned coin, the dealers often scoff at it or they say, "I can't sell that" trying to get it cheap. Then I look at a local dealer's list of coins for sale and 80% are graded cleaned/details coins that they're charging full retail for. Likely a cash cow they take advantage of. It is an education though. When you get a details coins back it forces you to pay more attention to what you missed. You will learn if you want to. Unfortunately once you know, you will pass on almost everything you see because there are so many issues to look for. Almost nothing loose has not been messed with over the years. Here's one for you. I submitted this one with another batch just for fun to see what it would get. I was guessing MS-62, maybe even a 63. Strong strike, all the details are there! [ATTACH=full]1544203[/ATTACH] Nope! This is an AU Details whizzed coin. You can maybe see the fine lines between the buffaloes legs. Under the loupe you can barely make them out. Whatever they used was really good, just don't know why it needed to be whizzed. Good learning tool. I kept it. Now imagine this coin in an ebay auction with crappy pictures. Are people going to pay AU details price for this as a loose coin? This one was particularly tough to spot although it seems obvious to everyone now with the facts laid out after it's all said and done.[/QUOTE]
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