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Message:: [QUOTE="stevex6, post: 1706633, member: 44183"]7Calbrey => hey, welcome to the world of ancients ... Unlike modern coin-collecting, sometimes getting to bare-metal and having the coin look "blast-white" is not the ultimate goal!! ... a 2000 year old brown-green patina covering on-top of the underlying brass is considered "natural" and therefore is the accepted "target/goal" ... Ummmm sadly in your case, buffing the coin with emery cloth in order to reveal the underlying brass has basically butchered this poor coin!! (*sigh*) ... oh well, lesson learned, right? NOTE => I do not clean coins myself and therefore I am definitely "not" claiming to be a coin cleaning expert ... but I do suggest that you sit-back and check-out several threads to discover what the ultimate ancient coin goal is all about ... I'm positive that you'll discover that although ancient coins are pretty much always "cleaned to some degree", they are not aggressively altered in order to produce a desired result (in other words => scraping, smoothing and/or tooling are all considered to be very bad practices and will all result in your coin being worth less, rather than it being worth more ... which I'm sure is your desired outcome, correct?) => again => "welcome" .... it is always nice having new ancient collectors join the ranks (eh-heh-heh) Cheers :high5::hug:[/QUOTE]