Help with Mexico 1915 5 Centavos (Constitutionalist Army)

Hey everyone!

Just pulled this out of a pile of "better" world coins I have set aside for a rainy day...notice that there are multiple versions/varieties of this coin in the Krause manual, some of which are valuable. Maybe someone here is more knowledgeable than I am about this and could help me out with attribution?

Thanks!

 

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Can you provide the weight and size?

 

Weight: 5.7g
Diameter: 25.5mm

 

It's a common variety. The valuable varieties are actually very rare to come by.

 

The Copper is heavier and bigger than the Brass variety.. Maybe this?
I want to share this image with you from the Numista website -
BRASS

 

Based on the die markers illustrated in my copy of Mexican Revolutionary Coinage by Guthrie and Bothamley, your coin shows Obverse VIII and Reverse T. This would be GB-52. That would translate to KM-613. A common example with a lot of varieties. Coin should be Copper, weight close to 6.40 g, and 25.4 mm. While several die cracks are mentioned, yours is not illustrated in the book. The author mentions that the design of the reverse led to frequent die breaks.

 

Sonlarson, are you sure it's not reverse Q? It shows the tiny spur hanging from the bottom of the vertical stroke of the 5, and the die crack also matches Guthrie's photo, though the latter shows additional cracking that could have happened later.

I think it would be a common variety either way.

 

I think you are correct. I missed the spur. Die crack in illustration threw me off also.

 

That would make it GB-49, if anybody's keeping score.

 

Thanks for all the info guys!


I doubted it would be anything expensive/valuable...but I like to learn. Good to know exactly what it is...

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Here's another one:


Mexico Chihuahua 5 Centavos 1914 Copper - 25mm 6.85gm

 

I wish I had one of those hand-held XRFs laying around when issues like this arise...

 

Hallo Sir.
Such coins were released at 1914 & 1915 in Mexican state Chihuahua by general Pancho Villa (to pay a salary to his soldiers).

 

Hey everyone!

Again, and again, thank you for all the extra information...

Well...found another one, this time a 1914 and in a bit nicer condition. What attribution would you give to this one:

 

What do you think @xlrcable? Obverse IV, Reverse J. GB-41, KM-613

 

Agreed!

By the way, there's a story that Villa's people got the copper for these by pulling down telegraph wires on the estates of the Terrazas family that dominated Chihuahua at the time. I can't seem to find a source for it right now, though, so don't take my word for it.

 

Hello,

Sorry for reviving an 11 day old thread, but I have also been looking for the variety of a 1915 5 Centavos of my own.

1915 Mexico-Revolutionary Chihuahua 5 Centavos-


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

 

Hard to be sure without higher-res photos - maybe GB-51?

This guy has very decent photographs of many of the varieties, including some not listed in Guthrie:

http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Chihuahua/Chihuahua.html