Help with Grading Raw 1855 Trime

[QUOTE="johnmilton, post: " Have a backbone and say “NO!” to the nonsense.[/QUOTE]

I do and will right now..as I got all the back bone needed to know a damaged coin is that damage.. and not a "give me " ..because I send in hundreds of coins a month..and get a pass... or better grades....where the average Joe who sends in 5 coins, and gets a different grade or detailed coin back....
Yeah youre correct it is nonsense.... keep drinking the kool ade.

 

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Here are my other two type coins for the Silver Three Cent Piece:

Type 1, MS-66.



Type III, Proof 65, Cam, CAC



I sill own this one. It is graded MS-63. I have always liked the 1851-O.



I owned this one at one time. I sort of wish I had kept it since it is an overdate and Civil War era piece. NGC graded this one MS-65.

 

It took me a while to find this type II trime for my type set. It's an MS-64 with a green bean.
I do have a whizzed coin that I purchased for my beehive topical collection but also
so I had a whizzed coin for reference.

 

The 62/1 over date has been refuted many times over the years as being a die chip. It is still refered to as an over date. My example. You be the judge...

Other so called over dates are the 1863/2, 1866/5,1869/8

 

Holed but a no brainer proof 1861 @$29 a steal

 

Better date 1859

 

I think that it is an overdate. How do you get such a straight line on a die clip?

 

Well for centuries mankind belived the moon to be made of cheese!

There is no remnants of any digit above or below the digit ,and....if the mint worker were to reuse a die of a 61
They would need to abrade the area around the 1. Which would remove the medal causing the 1 to be more so incused . Thus a die chip or crack...is the reason for this variety. As the same for the others I listed that are not over dates but md, or chips, or other artifact but not a punched digit.

And if you ever seen medal from lathe turnings ,machine shop work youll find all sorts of small scrap medal shapes and sizes. .... I've watched jewerlers friends of mine carve silver and gold and again the off falls can be any shape, size , etc.

 

I've found the discussion my post initiated to be both illuminating and entertaining. But so far, other than @Paddy54's estimate of 62/63, no one has offered an opinion on the grade of my coin. Other than Details, is it VF, XF, AU?

Since others have done so, I'll post my Type 1 and Type 3 trimes.

 

Well you asked for a grade...and from my perspective that what I believe it to be .

 

Most of the time, when a mint worker creates an over date die, they don’t try to efface the original number. They punch the new date over it usually leaving the remains of the previous date under it.

 

That's correct but not the case here...as its not in the others I listed....

 

I think it's AU details.

 

I also think Publius2's coin has beenwhizzed, and would give it AU details