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<p>[QUOTE="AncientCoinnoisseur, post: 25277383, member: 154225"]Hello everyone!</p><p><br /></p><p>First of all, I want to introduce myself: I like ancient coins and I like making infographics and studies about them.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I am now trying to make an infographic to easily distinguish <b><u>different types of Athenian Owl Tetradrachms</u></b> and I was wondering if my chronology is roughly correct.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thank you in advance for any help. Here's the list:</p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Courier New"><b><u>Before the owl:</u> </b></font></p><p><font face="Courier New">..<b>- Wappenmünzen</b> </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....- Incuse square divided diagonally </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....- Panther’s head in a triangle of the incuse square </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....- Panter’s head fills the whole square </font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><b><u>OWL:</u></b> </font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><b><u>Archaic:</u></b></font></p><p><font face="Courier New">..<b>- Seltman:</b></font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....- Group H (525/10-515/05) </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....- Group L (515/05-500/490) </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....- Group M (500/490-485/82) </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....- Group Gii (500/490-485/82) </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....- Group Gi (500/490-485/82) </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....- Group C (482-480) </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....- Group F (482-480) </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....- Group E (480) </font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><b>Starr:</b></font></p><p><font face="Courier New">..- Starr I - 480-475 / 475-470</font></p><p><font face="Courier New">..- Starr II:</font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....- Starr II.A - 475-465</font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....- Starr II.B - 475-465 / 470-465</font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....- Starr II.C - 475-465 / 467-465</font></p><p><font face="Courier New">..- Starr III - 465-460</font></p><p><font face="Courier New">..- Starr IV - 475-465</font></p><p><font face="Courier New">..- Starr V:</font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....Starr V.A:</font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.......- Starr V.A 1 - 460-454 </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.......- Starr V.A 2 - 460-454 </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.......- Starr V.A 3 - 460-454 </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....Starr V.B:</font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.......- Starr V.B 1 - 460-454 </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.......- Starr V.B 2 - 460-454 </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.......- Starr V.B 3 - 460-454 </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.......- Starr V.B 4 - 460-454 </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.......- Starr V.B 5 - 460-454 </font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><b>Pi Style:</b></font></p><p><font face="Courier New">..- Classical - 454-404 </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....- Flament Group I - 454-440 </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.......- Early (454) </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.......- Late (450) </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....- Flament Group II - 440-420 </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">.....- Flament Group III - 420-405 </font></p><p><font face="Courier New">..- Early Transitional - 393-355</font></p><p><font face="Courier New">..- Pi-Style I - 353-352</font></p><p><font face="Courier New">..- Pi-Style II - 353-350</font></p><p><font face="Courier New">..- Pi-Style III - 353-340</font></p><p><font face="Courier New">..- Pi-Style IV - 353-340</font></p><p><font face="Courier New">..- Pi Style V - 350-297</font></p><p><font face="Courier New">..- Quadridigité - 286-262</font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><b>Mass Issue</b> - 454-?</font></p><p><font face="Courier New"><b>New Style</b> - 165-164 to 63/62</font></p><p><br /></p><p>I was thinking of including pictures and descriptions for each variety, with <b><u>visual clues on how to identify the different styles and groups</u></b>. If you have coins of a certain type feel free to post them to help me in my task <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I also just recently found out about <i><b>Terence Cheesman</b></i> passing, which is an incredible loss. His expertise on <i>Starr groups</i> and <i>Flament groups</i> would have been an invaluable help in compiling this list.</p><p><br /></p><p>Speaking of <b>Christophe Flament</b> analysis for the mass coinage, does anyone know where I can read it?</p><p><br /></p><p>I could also add the chronology of <b>Margaret Thompson</b> for the <i>new style tet</i>, but I suppose she just looks at the different shapes / countermarks to date them. I have no idea since I don't know where to read her work.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>Any additional subdivisions I should keep in mind?</u></b></p><p><br /></p><p>Also, I am not sure where I should put the <b><i>mass issue coins</i></b> and if they fall in the Pi-Style macro category.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks in advance, and <u>if you have any clues on how to distinguish different categories, please feel free to help me in my task</u>![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="AncientCoinnoisseur, post: 25277383, member: 154225"]Hello everyone! First of all, I want to introduce myself: I like ancient coins and I like making infographics and studies about them. I am now trying to make an infographic to easily distinguish [B][U]different types of Athenian Owl Tetradrachms[/U][/B] and I was wondering if my chronology is roughly correct. Thank you in advance for any help. Here's the list: [FONT=Courier New][B][U]Before the owl:[/U] [/B] ..[B]- Wappenmünzen[/B] .....- Incuse square divided diagonally .....- Panther’s head in a triangle of the incuse square .....- Panter’s head fills the whole square [B][U]OWL:[/U][/B] [B][U]Archaic:[/U][/B] ..[B]- Seltman:[/B] .....- Group H (525/10-515/05) .....- Group L (515/05-500/490) .....- Group M (500/490-485/82) .....- Group Gii (500/490-485/82) .....- Group Gi (500/490-485/82) .....- Group C (482-480) .....- Group F (482-480) .....- Group E (480) [B]Starr:[/B] ..- Starr I - 480-475 / 475-470 ..- Starr II: .....- Starr II.A - 475-465 .....- Starr II.B - 475-465 / 470-465 .....- Starr II.C - 475-465 / 467-465 ..- Starr III - 465-460 ..- Starr IV - 475-465 ..- Starr V: .....Starr V.A: .......- Starr V.A 1 - 460-454 .......- Starr V.A 2 - 460-454 .......- Starr V.A 3 - 460-454 .....Starr V.B: .......- Starr V.B 1 - 460-454 .......- Starr V.B 2 - 460-454 .......- Starr V.B 3 - 460-454 .......- Starr V.B 4 - 460-454 .......- Starr V.B 5 - 460-454 [B]Pi Style:[/B] ..- Classical - 454-404 .....- Flament Group I - 454-440 .......- Early (454) .......- Late (450) .....- Flament Group II - 440-420 .....- Flament Group III - 420-405 ..- Early Transitional - 393-355 ..- Pi-Style I - 353-352 ..- Pi-Style II - 353-350 ..- Pi-Style III - 353-340 ..- Pi-Style IV - 353-340 ..- Pi Style V - 350-297 ..- Quadridigité - 286-262 [B]Mass Issue[/B] - 454-? [B]New Style[/B] - 165-164 to 63/62[/FONT] I was thinking of including pictures and descriptions for each variety, with [B][U]visual clues on how to identify the different styles and groups[/U][/B]. If you have coins of a certain type feel free to post them to help me in my task :) I also just recently found out about [I][B]Terence Cheesman[/B][/I] passing, which is an incredible loss. His expertise on [I]Starr groups[/I] and [I]Flament groups[/I] would have been an invaluable help in compiling this list. Speaking of [B]Christophe Flament[/B] analysis for the mass coinage, does anyone know where I can read it? I could also add the chronology of [B]Margaret Thompson[/B] for the [I]new style tet[/I], but I suppose she just looks at the different shapes / countermarks to date them. I have no idea since I don't know where to read her work. [B][U]Any additional subdivisions I should keep in mind?[/U][/B] Also, I am not sure where I should put the [B][I]mass issue coins[/I][/B] and if they fall in the Pi-Style macro category. Thanks in advance, and [U]if you have any clues on how to distinguish different categories, please feel free to help me in my task[/U]![/QUOTE]
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