Help with a problem

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Blueindian65, Dec 15, 2009.

  1. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Okay...now I understand. I still think the seller knows he is deliberately misleading.
     
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  3. Blueindian65

    Blueindian65 Member

    The seller sux

    I told him as much as well. He even sent me a bunch links to auctions for bad conis in off brand TPG slabs for rediculse money. I have come to the realization that I do not have the skills to pay the bills when it comes to selling coins. I am going to chill out on ebay. read read read and read some more about coins watch auctions, and just buy coins that I like that are slabed by legit companies and hold on to them. Maybe one day when im retired and have plenty of money in the bank i'll travle to shows and open a store somewhere like New Orleans or Savanah. those are my two favoret cities in the world. Mobil is O.K, but not nearly as cool.
     
  4. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Yeah, my intention was just to answer Lehigh's previous question...I didn't mean to come off rude. I apologize Blueindian65 if you felt I did.
     
  5. Blueindian65

    Blueindian65 Member

    Sory for calling you duck dude. Its all good.
     
  6. mill rat41

    mill rat41 Member

    Umm, not that I claim to know much about peace dollars (or coins in general). But that looks like a whale of a 1921 HR $1 to me. Is it a fake, or simply overgraded?
     
  7. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Even with all the fakes coming out of China, the odds are that the coin is real. As to whether or not it is overgraded, that can't really be determined without in hand examination, but most everyone just assumes it is because the holder isn't PCGS or NGC. (It could actually be a MS-65 genuine coin, but if it was the seller most likely would have been very happyto void a sale at 1/3rd of the book value rather than try to insist that the sale contract be honored.)
     
  8. Blueindian65

    Blueindian65 Member

    I here you, but

    If im going to gamble 500 bucks I normly get a buffette drinks a a free room. The seller was unwiling to comp any of those things. I just couldn't take the risk.
     
  9. jmon

    jmon Numismatist In Training

    After reading this thread I decided to check out this seller... After checking him out I am perty certain that deception is the name of the game.

    First, most all aucitons are private. While I can respect that on large purchases, eBay protects your ID and excessive use is a warning flag to me. Second, some of the aucitons I can see:

    2 different coins pictured:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220510625317

    Deceptive pictures:
    Basically every time

    Bad titles:
    every time...

    Deceptive pricing with "Buy it now"
    Seems to be everywhere...

    While I am no expert, I would say most of the coins are damaged (cleaned, etc...) genuine coins and in some cases copies. If nothing else, the pricing tells you that. There is no way someone is going to continue to sell coins for a fraction of what a dealer would pay. In an attempt to fair though, I should point out that the seller does appear to have a couple of legit coins.

    Bottom line to me - no way! aka Run Forest, RUN!
     
  10. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I agree with Condor101 that it's probably authentic and that having the coin in hard would be the only way to determine the grade. 1921 Peace Dollars are different from all the other Peace Dollars because they are high relief. This came with striking problems and thus a lot of weakly struck 1921 Peace Dollars exist. This makes them very difficult to grade in a photograph because a weak strike can very easily look like wear.
     
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