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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Ian, post: 89556, member: 283&quot;]<img src="http://coinpeople.com/style_emoticons/default/yahoo.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> <img src="http://coinpeople.com/style_emoticons/default/yahoo.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> <img src="http://coinpeople.com/style_emoticons/default/yahoo.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>success!!</p><p><br /></p><p>Jim Roberts just positively I.D&#039;d both coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>The first is from the Republic of Modena (Italy) circa 1226-1293 . The legend is actually DE MVTINA and not quite as I had surmised. The reverse has FDC in the centre referring to Frederick II Holy Roman Emperor.</p><p><br /></p><p>The second is from the Commune of Bergamo during the late 13th / early 14th century, struck in the name of the same emperor but (as Jim says) maybe at a later date. The letters either side of the towers are (BER) GA | MUM The letters in brackets were apparently combined to produce an `F&#039; like symbol.</p><p><br /></p><p>Gosh isn&#039;t it all soooo easy when you know what it is that you are looking at. <img src="http://coinpeople.com/style_emoticons/default/grin.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>My hat is off to Jim <img src="http://coinpeople.com/style_emoticons/default/hi.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> He is a veritable mine of numismatic information (and my hero!). He&#039;s the guy who wrote the reference book `The Silver Coins of Medieval France &#039; (one of my most prized possessions) and who also recently managed to provide an amazing resource concerning mediaeval German coins online :</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.someoldcoins.org/saur/index.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.someoldcoins.org/saur/index.html" rel="nofollow"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">http://www.someoldcoins.org/saur/index.html</span></u></a></p><p><br /></p><p>Anyone wanting a quick link to info concerning who / what Frederick II was, try this link:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/83dyc" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://tinyurl.com/83dyc" rel="nofollow"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">http://tinyurl.com/83dyc</span></u></a></p><p><br /></p><p>Ian</p><p>`A VERY Happy Bunny&#039; <img src="http://coinpeople.com/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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