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<p>[QUOTE="Sam_I_am.MiaFLUSA, post: 3130162, member: 84102"]Reviewing old postings a year-and-a-half later, I'll throw out another use of the <b>Garter</b> and its famous/infamous motto <i>HONI SOIT QUI MAL Y PENSE. …</i>and this use for sure doesn't fit with your button! The 38th—42nd Royal Fusiliers, known collectively after WW-I as The Jewish Legion, used the Garter & it's Motto surrounding a <i>Magen</i> <i>David</i> [Shield of David (six-pointed Jewish star)]</p><p>with the Hebrew word <i>Tziyon</i> at its center.</p><p><br /></p><p> Mindful that the button was reportedly found with Roman coins, I am incredulous that the button is anything ancient, let alone even antique. And despite well meaning intentions of some of the other contributors above, I perceive that some are seeing things that clearly aren't there. I'm not sure what they've been smoking?? For instance, someone suggested that the upper left & lower right quadrants of the shield both display triple lions! Give me a break… while the lower right quadrant might represent three lions, the upper left has but two lions at most! And someone suggested that the upper right & lower left quadrants are of two different designs while they are virtually identical. I would go so far as to suggest that those two images are poor efforts at representing two rampant lions both of which are missing a rear leg.</p><p><br /></p><p> Furthermore, having seen hundreds of various costume jewelry style buttons amongst the hundreds of thousands of foreign coins that we used to process for banks, vending machine companies, telephone companies, amusement parks, toll road entities, cities, etc. mixed into South Florida's monetary system that once was one of the most <i>contaminated </i>in the U.S., I must tell you that most of those button designs weren't even close to anything authentic. </p><p><br /></p><p> In summation, 20th century clothing manufacturers and their button designers didn't give a rats _ss if the buttons were true to any design. And the Garter Belt & motto were frequently over used & too often abused by far too many. I truly wish you best of luck in your identification search, but keep your feet firmly anchored in the ground. </p><p>Respectfully,[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sam_I_am.MiaFLUSA, post: 3130162, member: 84102"]Reviewing old postings a year-and-a-half later, I'll throw out another use of the [B]Garter[/B] and its famous/infamous motto [I]HONI SOIT QUI MAL Y PENSE. …[/I]and this use for sure doesn't fit with your button! The 38th—42nd Royal Fusiliers, known collectively after WW-I as The Jewish Legion, used the Garter & it's Motto surrounding a [I]Magen[/I] [I]David[/I] [Shield of David (six-pointed Jewish star)] with the Hebrew word [I]Tziyon[/I] at its center. Mindful that the button was reportedly found with Roman coins, I am incredulous that the button is anything ancient, let alone even antique. And despite well meaning intentions of some of the other contributors above, I perceive that some are seeing things that clearly aren't there. I'm not sure what they've been smoking?? For instance, someone suggested that the upper left & lower right quadrants of the shield both display triple lions! Give me a break… while the lower right quadrant might represent three lions, the upper left has but two lions at most! And someone suggested that the upper right & lower left quadrants are of two different designs while they are virtually identical. I would go so far as to suggest that those two images are poor efforts at representing two rampant lions both of which are missing a rear leg. Furthermore, having seen hundreds of various costume jewelry style buttons amongst the hundreds of thousands of foreign coins that we used to process for banks, vending machine companies, telephone companies, amusement parks, toll road entities, cities, etc. mixed into South Florida's monetary system that once was one of the most [I]contaminated [/I]in the U.S., I must tell you that most of those button designs weren't even close to anything authentic. In summation, 20th century clothing manufacturers and their button designers didn't give a rats _ss if the buttons were true to any design. And the Garter Belt & motto were frequently over used & too often abused by far too many. I truly wish you best of luck in your identification search, but keep your feet firmly anchored in the ground. Respectfully,[/QUOTE]
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