Help w/ "Pointed Leaves" vs. "Round Leaves" variety on 1909 Canada silver 5c?

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  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I received this attributed as a "Pointed Leaves" variety, but since that's the better of the two varieties, I thought I should confirm. I've looked at comparison pictures of the two types but don't know what I'm supposed to be looking for. Which leaves are we talking about? They all look "leafy" to me. :wacky:

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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Thanks. That link at least gives an explanation. But I still looked back and forth between the two pictures and swear I can't see much if any difference.

    I was never any good at those "magic eye" posters, either, FWIW. I suppose I have very nonmagical eyes.
     
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  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Your specimen is a pointed leaf variety.
    And these are starting to interest me as the GWN -H-10 ;)
     
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  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Thanks.

    Oh good. The GWN -H-10.

    Glad to hear that.

    What's the GWN -H-10?!? :wacky::wideyed:
     
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  7. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Great White North half dime eh?
     
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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Aha! But of course!

    I had just figured out the "GWN" part.

    The "H-10" part would've taken me another five minutes. :rolleyes:
     
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  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    s-l400-9.jpg s-l400-8.jpg s-l400-3.jpg

    This is the long lip variety
     
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  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    :)

    "Fishscales".

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  11. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Now i like that.... have you checked for variety?
    Double legend
     
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  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I wouldn't know the varieties on these, as has already been amply demonstrated in this thread.
     
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  13. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Coins and canada web site very good for obtaining information on Canadian coins and varieties.
    Does Victoria look doubled?
     
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  14. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I second that. It's my main go-go for anything Canadian coins.
     
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  15. Paddy54

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    Here's how good their variety information is and how I found my 1891 long lip s-l400-9.jpg 5-cents-1891-obverse-2.jpg 5-cents-1891-double-8-date-canada-1891.jpg
     
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  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    If that was in regard to my 1901, I dunno. That coin was part of the 1901 Victorian type set I built for my daughter. Sold it five or six years ago. It never would have slabbed, since it had some rim damage. But it was pretty.

    The other two (1881-H & 1909) just went into my tiny little CollectiveCoin swapstock store. I'm trying to build that up some. Have tons of world coins, but only limited time to photograph and list them. I guess if I add a few every week, the list can grow.
     
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  17. MontCollector

    MontCollector Well-Known Member

    The leaves they are talking about are the first and second leaves on both sides of the ribbon on the reverse. Yours are pointed.

    http://coinsandcanada.com/coins-prices.php?coin=5-cents-1909&years=5-cents-1902-1910

    Look half way down and click on the little "+" to the right of the varieties this will show you what leaves.

    I third that. This is also my go to for Canada Varieties.
     
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  18. Michael K

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  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Well, that variety isn't even listed by Krause.

    I mean, when it's just "Round Leaves" versus "Pointed Leaves", the Pointed Leaves variety is the better, out of the ones listed in Krause.

    I've never been one for variety minutiae. I mean, I don't begrudge the folks who are into all that, and certainly don't blame them for taking an interest, and I respect their knowledge- but that sort of thing is just not my cup of tea.

    As was once rather dramatically demonstrated.
     
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  20. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    If you look at the Charlton coin guide (published annually), the blow-up or thumbnail photos show the differences very well. Charlton also gives the pointed & round leaves additional names (maple leaf or holly leaf). Don't strain your eyes looking for the '09 pointed(holly) leaf with the cross/bow-tie .. there are only 4 known. To me, it looks like the round leaves are just die wear. BTW, I'm not sure which year or edition of Charlton has the 5 cent silver variety section in the back, but it was fairly recently. Every year Charlton puts a different denomination in the back with 40-60 pages of varieties that aren't in the front or standard guide.
     
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  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Changing the subject entirely, @Bill in Burl - I like your avatar coin and have a nice MS example in one of my watchlists. Might move on it one of these days, if something else doesn't tempt me more. So many coins, so finite the funds to buy them with! *sigh*
     
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