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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;ErolGarip, post: 2803397, member: 88736&quot;]Your words, defining &quot;error&quot; like that, make someone in the Mint happy and someone in the Mint unhappy. </p><p>With such words, you are siding, sitting friendly next to what we call &quot;desk design engineer&quot; in the mint who will say &quot;yeah, that error was not my fault&quot; when he hears your word &quot;die anomaly departing from nominal&quot; while manufacturing engineer who is responsible in manufacturing &quot;errorless&quot; coin according to design of the coin will be unhappy as it&#039;s his error (according to your words.) So, it seems that numasmatic community, a community in history science field, is indirectly putting their nose into the works in the mint by defining the error like that, biased. Actually, that is being done when the word &quot;intention&quot; is added into the definition of error. If intentionally, it is not error - but, if unintentionally, it is error. But, then, how do you know the intention? It can&#039;t be known except by the only one who made &quot;error&quot;. I see that numasmatics&#039; reference for real/nominal piece is designed version of coin which is job of design engineer. Then, what if design engineer designed that spitting horse coin so that spitting line was in the design? We don&#039;t/can&#039;t know what his intention was. Anyway, if there is error coming out of the mint, either it is because of designer or manufacturer. Or, numasmatics are doing error, by not knowing things in the mint well enough. </p><p><br /></p><p>Maybe, this question simplfies discussion that can end up a firm result. </p><p>What&#039;s their reference/correct coin of spitting horse coin for numasmaics to be able to compare/say &quot;spitting horse coin is a coin with error&quot;? Is there any same coin with the same date and same horse, but, without &quot;spitting&quot;?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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