Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Collecting Nut, Oct 26, 2020.
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And you've got a Lot of reverse legend. The people here who can read Russian (Teacher, I Don't raise my hand) --and there Are some, who are also Much better versed in the series generally-- can help you with that. It will reliably give you the name of the issuing monarch.
...Some of them go back to the 15th century, if not before. I have one representative example of Ivan the Terrible; scared to even try to find the .jpg. But the obverse has St. George slaying the dragon. A very common motif in Russian ikony, contemporaneously and later.
...Wait! Maybe your obverse Isn't St. George and the dragon. Very impressionistically, variations of that obverse are more distinctive of the earlier issues. Several of which predate the formally Tsarist ones. With the clarity of the legend, it's like, consider the source, but you Might have something Very interesting.
IVAN THE TERRIBLE
RUSSIA Ivan IV The Terrible 1533-1584 AR Denga Moscow mint Horseman riding right brandishing sword - Inscription in lines G&K 59 Rare type
RUSSIA Ivan IV The Terrible 1533-1584 AR Kopek Wire money Novogorod mint 1535-1538 Horseman riding right brandishing sword - Inscription G&K 75
PETER THE GREAT
Peter the Great
AR Kopek 1682-1725
Obv: Horse Rider
Rev: Great Tsar Peter
@Siberian Man can help too
Oh, so I was only wrong by it being on the other side of the series. Not the first time....
It bothered me that so many of these seem to be die duplicates until I learned that these were made from hubbed dies. These are the latest coins I was willing to accept in my definition of hand struck and collectable. I drew the line at machine made coins but these turned out to be mechanically reproduced dies.
...Well, this is also the culture that gave you vodka (...like Scotch, from a comparable latitude). Extraordinary circumstances call for corresponding measures.
If the poor quality control of late Rome is any indication, I don’t doubt the ruskies for drinking on the job 1500 years later!
Well, except, more like a millennium later, if you're talking about 'wire money.' For the interval in between, you get Western European medieval, especially c. 10th-12th centuries. That's when, on the basis of the strike, you have to ask yourself, 'how hungover was he?'
(PSA: regarding vodka, unless you're someone who's lived with it longer than I have any intention of doing, it's like, Don't! Too easy, too fast.)
I believe the appeal was being able to produce a large number of coins exactlt the same weight without weighing flans. Wire is pulled to be a certain diameter and clipped to a set length making every one the set size. The coins were made to spend and deliver silver - not to impress us with their beauty.
@dougsmit, thanks for bringing us back to the utilitarian side of what was happening. With, from here, [what can only be characterized as --where's the strike-through function on this?...] admirable concision.
КНЗ (prince) ВЕЛIK (great) НГОР (of Novgorod) И (and) ВСЕА (the whole) РУСН (of Russia).
Separate names with a comma.