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<p>[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 8143665, member: 73489"]More to comment later -- I'm only about 1/2 through the PDF -- but these quick comments:</p><p><br /></p><p>(1) <b>Reading the PDF is good, but the entire thread with questions/responses from the other CU posters would be light-years better. </b> I wonder if the thread was only able to be saved with TTTT's comments showing (which would be weird)....or....if someone just saved his comments in PDF form and that is what I copied. <b>Because someone in the thread also only had TTTTs comments in the PDF format just like me.</b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><i>Highly irresponsible for CU to delete the thread even if it got heated, a bit nasty, and had OT or political stuff injected. Just lock the thread !! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie4" alt=":mad:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p>(2) <b>The level of detail from TTTT argues AGAINST it being made-up or a knowing con. </b> OTOH, there are lots of problems with specific details, some of which Insider and others on the original thread appear to have taken issue with. Roger Burdette was apparently there, too.</p><p><br /></p><p>(3) <b><i>Big Picture: Why is anybody getting into the fake coin business ? </i></b> The Mafia and organized crime are into unions, theft, racketering....they are going to make FAKES of an obscure coin (how many people knew about Saint-Gaudens DEs or High Reliefs in the late-1960's ?)....worry about the quality....have a HUGE fixed cost in the raw gold....then have to sell them to experts and dealers who might catch on ?</p><p><br /></p><p>It doesn't make sense. And 20,000 Omegas ? That would have CRUSHED the market. You can't triple the supply on something and keep the then-current market price of about $500 - $1,000 for MS-quality coins.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><i>Insider, you were there. </i></b> You noticed the surge in submissions to authenticate MCMVII's. <i>What was the NORMAL amount per month...and then what happened when the Omegas hit ? We talking about seeing 2-3 coins per month in the 1970's pre-Omega and then seeing 10 a month ? 50 a month ? 100 a month ? What ?</i></p><p><br /></p><p>(4) <b>There are 2 new CU threads though much smaller than the original. </b> They both end in 2019. At the time, TTTT was saying that a movie or documentary about the Omega High Reliefs was being produced. Any feedback appreciated.</p><p><br /></p><p>(5) <b><i>Joe Bonanno, Numismatist ? </i></b> If Bonanno were a coin collector and was aware of the history of American coins like the Saint-Gaudens, I could see him venturing into this multi-faceted high-risk venture. But I see nothing to indicate that Bonanno was into coins, Double Eagles, or Saints.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 8143665, member: 73489"]More to comment later -- I'm only about 1/2 through the PDF -- but these quick comments: (1) [B]Reading the PDF is good, but the entire thread with questions/responses from the other CU posters would be light-years better. [/B] I wonder if the thread was only able to be saved with TTTT's comments showing (which would be weird)....or....if someone just saved his comments in PDF form and that is what I copied. [B]Because someone in the thread also only had TTTTs comments in the PDF format just like me. [/B] [I]Highly irresponsible for CU to delete the thread even if it got heated, a bit nasty, and had OT or political stuff injected. Just lock the thread !! :mad: [/I] (2) [B]The level of detail from TTTT argues AGAINST it being made-up or a knowing con. [/B] OTOH, there are lots of problems with specific details, some of which Insider and others on the original thread appear to have taken issue with. Roger Burdette was apparently there, too. (3) [B][I]Big Picture: Why is anybody getting into the fake coin business ? [/I][/B] The Mafia and organized crime are into unions, theft, racketering....they are going to make FAKES of an obscure coin (how many people knew about Saint-Gaudens DEs or High Reliefs in the late-1960's ?)....worry about the quality....have a HUGE fixed cost in the raw gold....then have to sell them to experts and dealers who might catch on ? It doesn't make sense. And 20,000 Omegas ? That would have CRUSHED the market. You can't triple the supply on something and keep the then-current market price of about $500 - $1,000 for MS-quality coins. [B][I]Insider, you were there. [/I][/B] You noticed the surge in submissions to authenticate MCMVII's. [I]What was the NORMAL amount per month...and then what happened when the Omegas hit ? We talking about seeing 2-3 coins per month in the 1970's pre-Omega and then seeing 10 a month ? 50 a month ? 100 a month ? What ?[/I] (4) [B]There are 2 new CU threads though much smaller than the original. [/B] They both end in 2019. At the time, TTTT was saying that a movie or documentary about the Omega High Reliefs was being produced. Any feedback appreciated. (5) [B][I]Joe Bonanno, Numismatist ? [/I][/B] If Bonanno were a coin collector and was aware of the history of American coins like the Saint-Gaudens, I could see him venturing into this multi-faceted high-risk venture. But I see nothing to indicate that Bonanno was into coins, Double Eagles, or Saints.[/QUOTE]
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