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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;chrisild, post: 861160, member: 39&quot;]Barford and the ACCG, that sure is a sore subject. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> In my opinion both are way too shrill when voicing their opinions. I remember a previous ACCG campaign which (ab)used a debate here in Germany, about seizures of certain coins, to ... well I don&#039;t know what they aimed at. <a href="http://coinarchaeology.blogspot.com/2009/02/police-action-with-antiquities-and.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coinarchaeology.blogspot.com/2009/02/police-action-with-antiquities-and.html" rel="nofollow">http://coinarchaeology.blogspot.com/2009/02/police-action-with-antiquities-and.html</a>&nbsp; It is quite obvious that all those brown-shirts-and-swastikas &quot;arguments&quot; were aimed at an US audience - present or future ACCG members maybe - and did not really have anything to do with the discussion and the reality over here.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now Paul Barford represents the other extreme in my view - collectors are evil. (Well, maybe not evil but a potential risk.) It is certainly true that from time to time rare ancient objects, from Italy for example, &quot;make it&quot; to other countries and end up in private collections under dubious circumstances. And it does make sense to try and stop such trafficking.</p><p><br /></p><p>But, and this is where I certainly disagree with Barford, it should be possible to draw a sensible line here. As I wrote before, who is going to &quot;prove&quot; that a certain ancient Roman coin is from country X and not from Y? Would it be up to the collector or dealer to supply a certificate? What about coins that already are in our collections? (Here we are talking about ancients, which I do not collect, but theoretically every piece older than 100 years could be affected.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Also, while some ancient coins are so rare that it makes sense in my view to treat them just like you would treat other rare archeological objects, there are many many ancients which simply are &quot;mass&quot; pieces. Simply saying that each of these pieces requires an export permit, certificate, etc. would be beyond the line.</p><p><br /></p><p>Christian[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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