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  1. gianni

    gianni Member

    hello, can you help me please.
    what do the abbreviations mean BN - RB - RD variety present at munismedia site, see image? thanksssss
     

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  3. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy Supporter

    BN=Brown RB=Red Brown RD=Red.
     
  4. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

  5. gianni

    gianni Member

    Thanksss. Sorry whot your grade this 1931-D red ?? MS60/65 ???
     

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  6. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy Supporter

    AU details. Not red.
     
  7. gianni

    gianni Member

    uhmm yes is red but take image from phone not good resolutions, tomorrow get new full image and post, for me up MS60 very nice
     
  8. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on


    I will say it again, and I hope you reconsider your choices of saying MS (insert number) for me. Because MS numbers are not up for willy-nilly applications. They actually have standards to meet. People who don't pay attention to the standards and assign much higher grades to coins are not helping our hobby. Nor are they helping themselves, because they either don't understand what goes into it or don't care.

    Grading may be 'subjective' yet it still has standards that have to be met. It is an art and a science. Please don't just say it's (whatever high grade you come up with) to 'you'. MS grades don't work that way.

    And you come on asking what it is, are given a nice color scale to look at and then determine it's 'red'????? What gives? Sometimes I think you are just trolling instead of actually looking to learn. MS60 (and every MS grade) is not just up for random assignment.

    Also, RD, RB and BR have standards that apply as to what it means. Your coin does not meet the RD standard.
     
  9. gianni

    gianni Member

    ok, actually presents signs of circulation but still not serious, then I think of an AU58 almost RED to be correct? thank you
     
  10. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Again, please take the time to learn the specifics and look at other examples before trying to simply assign a grade to your coin. It will benefit you in the long run.

    Why the hurry to put a random grade to each coin you have?
     
  11. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Also that horrid set of marks in the middle of the obverse of this coin prevent it from grading straight (meaning an actual grade like you are expecting). The best it can be is 'details'. It's a damaged coin. Probably best described as AU - Details.
     
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  13. gianni

    gianni Member

    sorry my intention not to sell on the contrary I like to keep it as a memory of my dad was just a sharing of thoughts to understand some things, maybe in 20 years they sold it when its value be a thousand dollars
     
  14. gianni

    gianni Member

    uhhhh, i see numismedia.org and the Lincoln Cents - 1931 D BN grade AU50 current price is 34.50$ ... nice price, correctly ???
     
  15. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    @gianni Thank you, it is nice you want to keep the coin and give you a memory of your dad. But the coin is not valuable and will never be worth a thousand dollars. This particular 1931-D cent is got no real value as it is damaged. It never will have value unless just about every other 1931-D disappears from this earth. The 1942 quarter you posted that you are calling a MS65 is cleaned and not flawless. It is a details coin and now is only worth melt or less than melt. That will not change in the future, either, unless every other 1942 quarter also disappears from this earth.

    My comments about grading not working the way you seem to want to have it work for your coins has absolutely nothing to do with it being from your father or you keeping the coins.
     
  16. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Your coin is not worth that. It is details. Details might, just 'might' be worth 1/10th of the 'value' of a coin that is not details. But in the case of a 1931 D cent, I would not even put it at that. But you might get lucky and find someone who would want to purchase it for 3.00.
     
  17. gianni

    gianni Member

    ok sorry, not 1000 but till 20years 100 dollar
     
  18. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    NO
     
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  19. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    With those scratches the coin is considered damaged making a grade impossible. It reverts to a details coin.
     
  20. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    @Kasia is doing a wonderful job of teaching you a very important aspect of collecting. High grade examples are high grade. And that is an emphatic period.... Its rather like being pregnant. Either you are or you aren’t. You have a wonderful gift there from your father. Unfortunately the large scratch on the obverse is the absolute stroke of death to achieving a grade. The scratch will never disappear thus this coin can never achieve a straight grade. It is still an attractive and collectible coin not to mention a wonderful gift from your father. It simply cannot be straight graded with the scratch.
     
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  21. gianni

    gianni Member

    this coin in the picture is a MS66 with those scratches even worse than mine that you consider it just AU50 ??? to see this I say that my being at least MS60
     

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