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<p>[QUOTE="TheRed, post: 5190241, member: 87080"]First and foremost, nice penny [USER=15481]@svessien[/USER] I am certain it is class 4d. That is theonly class to feature a pellet before the EDW. Here is my example.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1214087[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>As to how to identify the type/class, there are about as many methods as there are classes and sub classes. Some collectors prefer to look at the crown first, others the letter styles, and others the initial marks. Frankly, all work and it really depends on the level of detail a coin has visible.</p><p><br /></p><p>I personally start with the mint. If a coin's mint is anything other than London, Bury, Canterbury, or Durham, that narrows down the possible class to 4 options. Given that the 4 listed mints produced the majority of pennies though, it leaves a lot of coins in need of another method.</p><p><br /></p><p>I next check the obverse legend. While there are a large variety of legends, as a general rule if the legend reads +EDW R ANGL DNS HYB it is class 1d thru 9 and Edward I. If the legend reads +EDWAR R ANGL DNS HYB it is class 10 thru 15 and late Edward I or Edward II. These are the two most common legends but by no means exclusive, as the coin below, class 1c, illustrates. The obverse legend reads +EDW REX ANGL DNS HYB.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1214078[/ATTACH] </p><p>Then you can also examine the shapes of the letters E and C. If they are open it is usually class 1-5 and if they are closed it is class 6-15, of course with exceptions. The initial mark also can narrow down the class as can the side fleurs of the crown, as [USER=75482]@dltsrq[/USER] noted above.</p><p><br /></p><p>I guess all of this is my way of saying that it is really confusing and a good resource is needed if you want to me exact. I recommend the book "The Galata Guide to the Pennies if Edward I and II, by Paul and Bente Withers. It really is the best and easiest guide to the pennies. The book is also fairly inexpensive, especially when purchased used.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1214083[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TheRed, post: 5190241, member: 87080"]First and foremost, nice penny [USER=15481]@svessien[/USER] I am certain it is class 4d. That is theonly class to feature a pellet before the EDW. Here is my example. [ATTACH=full]1214087[/ATTACH] As to how to identify the type/class, there are about as many methods as there are classes and sub classes. Some collectors prefer to look at the crown first, others the letter styles, and others the initial marks. Frankly, all work and it really depends on the level of detail a coin has visible. I personally start with the mint. If a coin's mint is anything other than London, Bury, Canterbury, or Durham, that narrows down the possible class to 4 options. Given that the 4 listed mints produced the majority of pennies though, it leaves a lot of coins in need of another method. I next check the obverse legend. While there are a large variety of legends, as a general rule if the legend reads +EDW R ANGL DNS HYB it is class 1d thru 9 and Edward I. If the legend reads +EDWAR R ANGL DNS HYB it is class 10 thru 15 and late Edward I or Edward II. These are the two most common legends but by no means exclusive, as the coin below, class 1c, illustrates. The obverse legend reads +EDW REX ANGL DNS HYB. [ATTACH=full]1214078[/ATTACH] Then you can also examine the shapes of the letters E and C. If they are open it is usually class 1-5 and if they are closed it is class 6-15, of course with exceptions. The initial mark also can narrow down the class as can the side fleurs of the crown, as [USER=75482]@dltsrq[/USER] noted above. I guess all of this is my way of saying that it is really confusing and a good resource is needed if you want to me exact. I recommend the book "The Galata Guide to the Pennies if Edward I and II, by Paul and Bente Withers. It really is the best and easiest guide to the pennies. The book is also fairly inexpensive, especially when purchased used. [ATTACH=full]1214083[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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