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Message:: [QUOTE="Al Kowsky, post: 3289785, member: 97383"]dougsmit, I think you may be missing the point of panzerman's comment & of 3rd party grading companies in general. Asking these companies to "name the ruler/ mint/ when it was struck/", when there is ample room on the slab is not asking for too much. I don't know any collectors who are "turned off by too much information". The primary reason slabbing companies perform there service isn't "to open the hobby to a new market", although they have done this, their primary purpose is to supply a 2nd opinion as to authenticity, whether a coin has been tooled or smoothed, & how the coin compares to others of the same type for style & appearance. No reasonable collector expects a "full Wikipedia blurb" from a 3rd party grading company, just basic identification information. When David Vagi took over the top spot at NGC for ancient coins I sent a sizable number of Diocletian's reform folli for slabbing. I requested that all those folli be identified by mint name & was given resistance until I spoke with Vagi personally. All those folli were identified by mint name & to this day all folli of that type are labled by mint name. I wish this was done for all Roman coins when possible. Older retired collectors, like you & I, with lots of exposure & experience along with a sizable library are not totally dependent on 3rd party slabbing companies, but many collectors who don't have the time, experience, & resources are.[/QUOTE]