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<p>[QUOTE="JeffC, post: 4570997, member: 90913"]I really, really like your question! I understand it. You're not asking what a die clash is. In fact, the essence of your question shows you know what it is, but are having difficulties visualizing HOW it could happen, since the designs on the dies are incused.</p><p><br /></p><p>Let me start by saying I'm NOT an expert (not in the least - by any stretch of the imagination) on the minting process. I'll just be starting the ANA course this fall. Having said that, once at a construction site, I saw a crane lifting a HUGE beam. It must have been over 30 feet long and 3 feet deep. The crane suddenly stopped and I saw the ends of the beam flop up and down, as if it was made of rubber! Boing, boing, boing! All metals can temporarily deform and "give." I think gronnh20's explanations make sense. I would like to add that, sometimes, the chance combination of the 2 design orientations (obv & rev) creates a perfect opportunity for a die clash. I tried to put it in a diagram. See below. The planchet is missing (of course) and a part of the blue die bends an infinitesimal amount (aided by the fact that there's a void space there on the red die) - just enough for the bottom die to puncture the top.[ATTACH=full]1131803[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I think in addition to metal properties, the "perfect storm" chance combination of peaks and valleys on the opposing dies must play a big part also. I have this 1930 SLQ. Take a look at the dot to the left (our left) of her right knee. That's the "E" from E PLURIBUS UNUM. I'm still scratching my head as to why the "E" from the reverse die would deform the obverse die but the Wings did no apparent damage.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1131809[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Hope my explanation helps. If you come across other answers, please share. I'm really interested in further details because I'm confounded by the same thing you are.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="JeffC, post: 4570997, member: 90913"]I really, really like your question! I understand it. You're not asking what a die clash is. In fact, the essence of your question shows you know what it is, but are having difficulties visualizing HOW it could happen, since the designs on the dies are incused. Let me start by saying I'm NOT an expert (not in the least - by any stretch of the imagination) on the minting process. I'll just be starting the ANA course this fall. Having said that, once at a construction site, I saw a crane lifting a HUGE beam. It must have been over 30 feet long and 3 feet deep. The crane suddenly stopped and I saw the ends of the beam flop up and down, as if it was made of rubber! Boing, boing, boing! All metals can temporarily deform and "give." I think gronnh20's explanations make sense. I would like to add that, sometimes, the chance combination of the 2 design orientations (obv & rev) creates a perfect opportunity for a die clash. I tried to put it in a diagram. See below. The planchet is missing (of course) and a part of the blue die bends an infinitesimal amount (aided by the fact that there's a void space there on the red die) - just enough for the bottom die to puncture the top.[ATTACH=full]1131803[/ATTACH] I think in addition to metal properties, the "perfect storm" chance combination of peaks and valleys on the opposing dies must play a big part also. I have this 1930 SLQ. Take a look at the dot to the left (our left) of her right knee. That's the "E" from E PLURIBUS UNUM. I'm still scratching my head as to why the "E" from the reverse die would deform the obverse die but the Wings did no apparent damage. [ATTACH=full]1131809[/ATTACH] Hope my explanation helps. If you come across other answers, please share. I'm really interested in further details because I'm confounded by the same thing you are.[/QUOTE]
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