Help me grade this 1870 3 cent nickel

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  1. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    What do you guys think? Can't tell if it's MS or AU. IMG_2422.JPG IMG_2421.JPG
     
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  3. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    Nice coin. I would guess around AU-55. Very nice doubling in the second A in America. No expert here but I am sure one will chime in shortly.

    Now that I looked more closely. The entire USA appears doubled.
     
  4. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Looks like "UNITED" has slight doubling also. Now from the 1800'S is it DD or did they come up with the term MD back then??
     
  5. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Looks like some things going on the reverse - die gouges? die clash? Interesting. Top and right side of the reverse pic. Plus also looks like some die scratches on the obverse too - lots going on.
    But I'd say AU 50/53 - but hard to tell if any mint luster left from the pics!
     
  6. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    There is definitely something going on around USA, just don't know enough about 3 cent nickels to say what it is.
     
  7. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I think the doubling looks to me like Longacre Doubling. You can see it on the last A of America. There is definitely clashing on the coin. You can see it on the obverse and the reverse. It looks pretty nice to me. I'd say AU but it could be MS, not sure without different photo's. It looks like possibly a weak strike, especially since this is a cupronickel composition. If the price is right, I'd say go for it. It has a lot of interesting things going on with it.
     
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  8. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Can't see the luster but I'm at 63 or 64. Nice clash. Really nice coin.
     
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  9. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    There's a little luster, but it's hard to take pics because the coin is so small. Here's one that at least shows a little variance in the fields. IMG_2425.JPG
     
  10. Sean5150

    Sean5150 Well-Known Member

    That would be nice, you think it's worth sending in?
     
  11. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    Coin looks MS to me. I would say the doubling is MD and not a doubled die. As others have said, the reverse shows a clash. Over all, it looks like a nice coin.
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Not to me. It would just add to your cost in the coin.
     
  13. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    Nickels don't have the same booming luster that silver coins have....also strike weakness is pretty typical because the metal itself is harder.
    So yes, that looks to be solid MS.....I won't pin down a grade because in the first photo there are some hairlines above lady Liberty's head. Might make it go Unc Details.
     
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  14. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I'm thinking Mint State with a very nice die clash. It looks like Longacre doubling to me, but I'd need to see it in hand because that's hard to tell with the photos.
     
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  15. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Looks like a 58 to me
     
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  16. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Looks more like weakly struck MS coin to me. My guess is around MS-62.
     
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  17. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Nice MS coin and both sides have clashes too ...
     
  18. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I'm looking at the flatness in the end of the hair curl and at the top of the third column/roman numeral on the reverse. Is this typical of a weak strike?
     
  19. COCollector

    COCollector Well-Known Member

    Wanna trade?

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  20. 70Shark

    70Shark Member

    The ‘flatness’ of those areas are the result of numerous die clashes. The flatness of the lower hair curls corresponds to the flatness of the leafs at 1:00. The flatness of the first numeral is from the cheek. I normally look at the lower beads and leaf veins for a truer indication of grade. Also take a close look at the date with a loop. There are a couple re-punched dates for 1870. Letters are Longacre Doubling. She’s MS.
     
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  21. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    Very nice 3 cent'er. I really like the die clashing.
     
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