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<p>[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 3637835, member: 99456"]As there are no volunteers, I will take a shot at it. Not a time period where I have expertise - and my reference books are not near me at the moment - I think Sear might make this a bit easier. Auction databases are likely to be full of mis-attributed examples of these coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>First, I will note that it is worth reading [USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER]'s <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/distinguishing-between-maximian-galerius-and-maximinus-ii.335330/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/distinguishing-between-maximian-galerius-and-maximinus-ii.335330/">recent</a> & excellent thread on the subject. This is the most challenging: a case of <b>Rule 5</b> where legends alone will not differentiate between Maximianus and Galerius.</p><p><br /></p><p>The coin above (posted by [USER=18487]@cwart[/USER]):</p><p>- IMP MAXIMI<span style="color: red"><b>A</b></span>NVS PF AVG</p><p>- SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS FEL KART</p><p><br /></p><p>One quick aside: it is perhaps interesting to also know what this legend says:</p><p>"Salvis duorum augustorum et duorum caesarum, felix Karthago" which reads "With two healthy Augusti (senior) and two healthy Caesars (junior), Carthage is happy"</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Rule 1</b>: MAXIMINVS always identifies Maximinus II. (DOES NOT APPLY)</p><p><b>Rule 2</b>: MAXIMIANVS with CAES identifies Galerius (DOES NOT APPLY)</p><p><b>Rule 3</b>: MAXIMIANVS with GAL identifies Galerius. (DOES NOT APPLY)</p><p><b>Rule 4</b>: Coins with MA and MAXIMIANVS are of Maximian. (DOES NOT APPLY)</p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>Rule 5:</b> Both Maximian and Galerius have coins with "MAXIMIANVS" and "AVG." We need some other way to tell them apart (sometimes the reverse type).</p><p><br /></p><p>It helps to keep in view the tetrarchies and their timing:</p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p><font size="3"><u><b>285 AD the early phase</b></u></font></p><p><font size="3">Diocletian Aug + Maximian Caes </font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="3"><u><b>293 AD first Tetrarchy</b></u></font></p><p><font size="3">(East/Jovian) Diocletian Aug + Galerius Caes</font></p><p><font size="3">(West/Herculean) Maximian Aug + Constantius Chlorus Caes</font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="3"><u><b>305 AD second Tetrarchy</b></u></font></p><p><font size="3">(East/Jovian) Galerius Aug + Maximinus II Caes </font></p><p><font size="3">(West/Herculean) Constantius Chlorus Aug + Severus II Caes</font></p><p> </p></blockquote><p>The two possibilities are: Maximian after 293 AD or Galerius after 305 AD. The differentiator is the letter on the reverse field which denotes the two houses (Jovian and Herculean) - the "I" in field on the reverse helps to identify this follis as one of <b>"Galerius"</b> who was Jovian (not Herculean Maximianus).</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Addendum:</b> <font size="3">Sear 14558 (AD 305-306) "In this issue the follis of the 'Jovian' rulers Galerius and Caesar Maximinus have the letter I (= Iovi) in the reverse field, while those of the 'Herculians' Constantius and Severus have the letter H."</font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="3">32 coins in ACSearch matching <u>"MAXIMIANVS P F AVG" SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS FEL KART</u></font></p><p><font size="3">4 have the I in field - 3 are labeled Maximian, and 1 is labeled "Galerius as Caesar" </font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="3"></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 3637835, member: 99456"]As there are no volunteers, I will take a shot at it. Not a time period where I have expertise - and my reference books are not near me at the moment - I think Sear might make this a bit easier. Auction databases are likely to be full of mis-attributed examples of these coins. First, I will note that it is worth reading [USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER]'s [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/distinguishing-between-maximian-galerius-and-maximinus-ii.335330/']recent[/URL] & excellent thread on the subject. This is the most challenging: a case of [B]Rule 5[/B] where legends alone will not differentiate between Maximianus and Galerius. The coin above (posted by [USER=18487]@cwart[/USER]): - IMP MAXIMI[COLOR=red][B]A[/B][/COLOR]NVS PF AVG - SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS FEL KART One quick aside: it is perhaps interesting to also know what this legend says: "Salvis duorum augustorum et duorum caesarum, felix Karthago" which reads "With two healthy Augusti (senior) and two healthy Caesars (junior), Carthage is happy" [B]Rule 1[/B]: MAXIMINVS always identifies Maximinus II. (DOES NOT APPLY) [B]Rule 2[/B]: MAXIMIANVS with CAES identifies Galerius (DOES NOT APPLY) [B]Rule 3[/B]: MAXIMIANVS with GAL identifies Galerius. (DOES NOT APPLY) [B]Rule 4[/B]: Coins with MA and MAXIMIANVS are of Maximian. (DOES NOT APPLY) [B] Rule 5:[/B] Both Maximian and Galerius have coins with "MAXIMIANVS" and "AVG." We need some other way to tell them apart (sometimes the reverse type). It helps to keep in view the tetrarchies and their timing: [INDENT][SIZE=3][U][B]285 AD the early phase[/B][/U] Diocletian Aug + Maximian Caes [U][B]293 AD first Tetrarchy[/B][/U] (East/Jovian) Diocletian Aug + Galerius Caes (West/Herculean) Maximian Aug + Constantius Chlorus Caes [U][B]305 AD second Tetrarchy[/B][/U] (East/Jovian) Galerius Aug + Maximinus II Caes (West/Herculean) Constantius Chlorus Aug + Severus II Caes[/SIZE] [/INDENT] The two possibilities are: Maximian after 293 AD or Galerius after 305 AD. The differentiator is the letter on the reverse field which denotes the two houses (Jovian and Herculean) - the "I" in field on the reverse helps to identify this follis as one of [B]"Galerius"[/B] who was Jovian (not Herculean Maximianus). [B]Addendum:[/B] [SIZE=3]Sear 14558 (AD 305-306) "In this issue the follis of the 'Jovian' rulers Galerius and Caesar Maximinus have the letter I (= Iovi) in the reverse field, while those of the 'Herculians' Constantius and Severus have the letter H." 32 coins in ACSearch matching [U]"MAXIMIANVS P F AVG" SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS FEL KART[/U] 4 have the I in field - 3 are labeled Maximian, and 1 is labeled "Galerius as Caesar" [/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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