I have this little grouping of French coins I've been working on and need some help ID'ing a couple. Thanks!
I believe the first one is a counting jeton(15th century?) i just saw one similar, but it had a fleur-de-lis above the castle instead of a crown. I believe the second one is a douzain of Henry II (1550s)
The first says AVE MARIA GRATIA PLENA, the first portion of the prayer which in English is the Hail Mary. The second coin may say NOMEN DNI BENEDICTUM...... which is,in English, Blessed (be) the Name of the Lord. The H will be a ruler’s initial, likely Henri, which may not help much. The second item is almost certainly a coin, but the first may be a jeton.
Sorry, @john82 I was intrigued by the question and completely missed your better informed and earlier reply.