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<p>[QUOTE="lehmansterms, post: 3945317, member: 80804"]Contemporaneous with the scyphate, faux Byzantine trachea (of which your coin appears to be a fragment) Bela III also struck another large-module, flat-fabric faux Islamic piece in copper.</p><p><img src="http://old.stoa.org/albums/album173/FauxArabicRezpenz.sized.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="http://old.stoa.org/gallery/album173/FauxArabicRezpenz?full=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://old.stoa.org/gallery/album173/FauxArabicRezpenz?full=1" rel="nofollow">http://old.stoa.org/gallery/album173/FauxArabicRezpenz?full=1</a> </p><p><br /></p><p>I have seen (and have an example of) what appears to have been an attempt to popularize these large-module, copper pieces - which tended not to be very popular as Finn235 mentioned since the public were used to using relatively tiny "fishscale" silver and billon coins - by creating an official flat version of the "two seated figures" rezpenz. These somewhat emulate what must have been, at the time, relatively well-known folles of Justin II, and local copies thereof, showing Justin and wife Sophia seated side-by-side, several centuries after their reign in the later 6th century. These flat-fabric pieces were either produced officially, or some of the attempts to flatten scyphate pieces were far more successful and less destructive - and accomplished on a mass basis - with the thin coins than other, ad-hoc attempts at flattening them which usually resulted in profound flan-splitting. From the overall condition, however, these appear to have been struck on flat flans to begin with rather than being flattened from a scyphate fabric. This is an example of what I believe to be an official flat-fabric Byzantine imitative rezpenz:</p><p><img src="http://old.stoa.org/albums/album173/BelaIIIFlat.sized.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><a href="http://old.stoa.org/gallery/album173/BelaIIIFlat?full=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://old.stoa.org/gallery/album173/BelaIIIFlat?full=1" rel="nofollow">http://old.stoa.org/gallery/album173/BelaIIIFlat?full=1</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="lehmansterms, post: 3945317, member: 80804"]Contemporaneous with the scyphate, faux Byzantine trachea (of which your coin appears to be a fragment) Bela III also struck another large-module, flat-fabric faux Islamic piece in copper. [IMG]http://old.stoa.org/albums/album173/FauxArabicRezpenz.sized.jpg[/IMG] [URL]http://old.stoa.org/gallery/album173/FauxArabicRezpenz?full=1[/URL] I have seen (and have an example of) what appears to have been an attempt to popularize these large-module, copper pieces - which tended not to be very popular as Finn235 mentioned since the public were used to using relatively tiny "fishscale" silver and billon coins - by creating an official flat version of the "two seated figures" rezpenz. These somewhat emulate what must have been, at the time, relatively well-known folles of Justin II, and local copies thereof, showing Justin and wife Sophia seated side-by-side, several centuries after their reign in the later 6th century. These flat-fabric pieces were either produced officially, or some of the attempts to flatten scyphate pieces were far more successful and less destructive - and accomplished on a mass basis - with the thin coins than other, ad-hoc attempts at flattening them which usually resulted in profound flan-splitting. From the overall condition, however, these appear to have been struck on flat flans to begin with rather than being flattened from a scyphate fabric. This is an example of what I believe to be an official flat-fabric Byzantine imitative rezpenz: [IMG]http://old.stoa.org/albums/album173/BelaIIIFlat.sized.jpg[/IMG] [URL]http://old.stoa.org/gallery/album173/BelaIIIFlat?full=1[/URL][/QUOTE]
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