Help identification Islamic coins

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by catadc, May 16, 2021.

  1. catadc

    catadc Well-Known Member

    These two coins were part of a lot of byzantines from 1080-1260 AD. Need your help for identification, please.

    My "suspects" are Album 1192 and 1203, AE of the Seljuq of Rum, but somehow I do not manage to "see" it right.

    First coin is 21 mm, 2.73 gr and very thin. Second one is 19 mm (widest point), 2.87 gr and thicker.

    Thank you
    islamic 1.png islamic 2.png
     
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  3. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    From here, it looks as if you nailed it with Album #1203 for the top one. One example from ACsearch: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5773153
    [Edit:] For the lower one, I'm gravitating toward thinking it's likely the same issue, on an undersized flan.
     
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  4. dltsrq

    dltsrq Grumpy Old Man

    Yes, both appear to be Album 1203. On the 1st coin above and on the acsearch coin I read al-sultan / al-mu'azzam / Kaykhusraw shah bin / Qilij Arslan.

    السلطان
    المعظم
    كيخسرو شاه بن
    قكج ارسلان

    While the 1st coin above and the acsearch coin clearly have the word "shah" in the 3rd line, others at Zeno apparently do not. Few, if any, have complete legends. I can't be certain if "shah" is present on the 2nd coin but "Kaykhusraw" is clear. I also note that several of the coins on Zeno have the same under-sized oval flan as the 2nd coin.

    https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=20553
     
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  5. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    @dltsrq, this will be redundant, but who cares:
    Bravo! Bravo! And few more of those.
     
  6. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander Blame my mother. Supporter

    That top one is a nice cherry in the lot(?), on a large flan! Here's A-1203:

    Album 1203.jpg

    Thanks for the legend transcription, @dltsrq.
     
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  7. catadc

    catadc Well-Known Member

    @dltsrq - thank you very much, your answer is simply wonderful.

    @Severus Alexander - I do not collect these coins. They are, I assume, inspired by byzantines, which I do collect, so the can stay with me.
     
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