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What does the other side look like?

 

Looks like a copy or fantasy piece. Which one depends on the opposite side

 

Was able to find out "fantasy tael"? or a copy? Thank you @Numismat

 

China 1904 Kwangtung; Fantasy Half Tael; Kann B35

 

Thank you!
How can you tell the 1/2 tael and the 1 tael apart?

Do you think my coin is genuine or a reproduction?

 

Must be a replica...details are not as good as the coin you posted.

 

Looks like replica to me. I'm not really expert in chinese coins. so i may be wrong

 

27.5 grams

 

Looks like a replica to me too but as Nas said, I am not an expert in Chinese coins.

 

Weight is wrong. Not real.

 

This came in same lot. I’m guessing fake as well?

 

8.05 grams @Numismat @Nas

 

its not coin! looks like a token or replica.
obverse of Yuan Shih Kai. and reverse! i dont know

 

Flat and incorrect details, definitely fake. Would be a $100k coin if genuine. Supposed to be this: https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/35098421_china-nd1913-yuan-shi-kai-10-cash-copper-pattern

 

Thank you. I was expecting that. What intrigues me is I can't find any other like these two in this thread. Replicas are usually made in huge numbers and you can easily find about them online for a buck or two, on websites I'm not going to name here. These two, I can't find anything. They came in a lot of old coins from a seller without any history of selling fakes.

 

The first one is commonly seen, just do a google images search for kwangtung fantasy tael. Second one, my guess is you won't find them on alibaba because it's illegal for them to fake their own country's existing coins.

 

I can't seem to find first either on ababa.
Is there a chance there's something old about these? Like being made 50 years or so? Or 100 percent they're made recently? Came in a lot with coins from late 1800's and early to mid 1900's.