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<p>[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 3237884, member: 75937"][USER=87404]@Justin Lee[/USER] -- fun project! I'm up to the challenge. The top coin is an Antonine woman for sure and, on the basis of the hairstyle, there are only two real possibilities: Faustina II or her daughter, Lucilla.</p><p><br /></p><p>Faustina II:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]846884[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Lucilla:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]846885[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Crispina, although she also wore a chignon at the back of the head, isn't a serious possibility; her chignon is always bigger:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]846888[/ATTACH]</p><p>The obverse inscription will distinguish between Faustina II and Lucilla if any of it remains: ΦΑVCΤEΙΝΑ vs ΛΟVΚΙΛΛΑ.</p><p><br /></p><p>The other question is the identity of the female deity on the reverse. I see a veiled female figure standing left, holding patera and cornucopiae. Probably an altar at her feet. This is MOST consistent with Eusebeia (Eὐσέβεια; Pietas in Latin) but Homonoia (Concordia) is a very real possibility.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, doing a search at acsearchinfo on "Faustina Eusebeia" yields <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Faustina+Eusebeia&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Faustina+Eusebeia&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=" rel="nofollow">very little</a>, as does the <a href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.aspx?search=true&searchQuery=Faustina+Eusebeia&searchQueryExclude=&searchCategory=0&searchCategoryLevel=2&searchCategoryAncient=True&searchCategoryUs=True&searchCategoryWorld=True&searchCategoryMedieval=False&searchBetween=0&searchBetweenAnd=0&searchDate=&searchUseThesaurus=True&searchDisplayCurrency=&searchDisplay=1&searchIdStore=0&searchQueryAnyWords=&searchExactPhrase=&searchTitleAndDescription=True&searchDateType=0&searchMaxRecords=100&SearchOnSale=False&Unassigned=False" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.aspx?search=true&searchQuery=Faustina+Eusebeia&searchQueryExclude=&searchCategory=0&searchCategoryLevel=2&searchCategoryAncient=True&searchCategoryUs=True&searchCategoryWorld=True&searchCategoryMedieval=False&searchBetween=0&searchBetweenAnd=0&searchDate=&searchUseThesaurus=True&searchDisplayCurrency=&searchDisplay=1&searchIdStore=0&searchQueryAnyWords=&searchExactPhrase=&searchTitleAndDescription=True&searchDateType=0&searchMaxRecords=100&SearchOnSale=False&Unassigned=False" rel="nofollow">same search</a> at V Coins. A search there for "Lucilla Eusebeia" yields <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Lucilla+Eusebeia&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Lucilla+Eusebeia&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=" rel="nofollow">even less</a>. Using "Lucilla Eusebeia" at V Coins was <a href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.aspx?search=true&searchQuery=Lucilla+Eusebeia&searchQueryExclude=&searchCategory=0&searchCategoryLevel=2&searchCategoryAncient=True&searchCategoryUs=True&searchCategoryWorld=True&searchCategoryMedieval=False&searchBetween=0&searchBetweenAnd=0&searchDate=&searchUseThesaurus=True&searchDisplayCurrency=&searchDisplay=1&searchIdStore=0&searchQueryAnyWords=&searchExactPhrase=&searchTitleAndDescription=True&searchDateType=0&searchMaxRecords=100&SearchOnSale=False&Unassigned=False" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.aspx?search=true&searchQuery=Lucilla+Eusebeia&searchQueryExclude=&searchCategory=0&searchCategoryLevel=2&searchCategoryAncient=True&searchCategoryUs=True&searchCategoryWorld=True&searchCategoryMedieval=False&searchBetween=0&searchBetweenAnd=0&searchDate=&searchUseThesaurus=True&searchDisplayCurrency=&searchDisplay=1&searchIdStore=0&searchQueryAnyWords=&searchExactPhrase=&searchTitleAndDescription=True&searchDateType=0&searchMaxRecords=100&SearchOnSale=False&Unassigned=False" rel="nofollow">equally unproductive</a>.</p><p><br /></p><p>Doing a search there for "Faustina Homonoia" was <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Faustina+Homonoia&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Faustina+Homonoia&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=" rel="nofollow">more productive</a> in terms of the number of hits, but many of them are duplicates of coins from Hadrianopolis and Pautalia. The same search at V Coins yielded a <a href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.aspx?search=true&searchQuery=Faustina+Homonoia&searchQueryExclude=&searchCategory=0&searchCategoryLevel=2&searchCategoryAncient=True&searchCategoryUs=True&searchCategoryWorld=True&searchCategoryMedieval=False&searchBetween=0&searchBetweenAnd=0&searchDate=&searchUseThesaurus=True&searchDisplayCurrency=&searchDisplay=1&searchIdStore=0&searchQueryAnyWords=&searchExactPhrase=&searchTitleAndDescription=True&searchDateType=0&searchMaxRecords=100&SearchOnSale=False&Unassigned=False" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.aspx?search=true&searchQuery=Faustina+Homonoia&searchQueryExclude=&searchCategory=0&searchCategoryLevel=2&searchCategoryAncient=True&searchCategoryUs=True&searchCategoryWorld=True&searchCategoryMedieval=False&searchBetween=0&searchBetweenAnd=0&searchDate=&searchUseThesaurus=True&searchDisplayCurrency=&searchDisplay=1&searchIdStore=0&searchQueryAnyWords=&searchExactPhrase=&searchTitleAndDescription=True&searchDateType=0&searchMaxRecords=100&SearchOnSale=False&Unassigned=False" rel="nofollow">couple from Hadrianopolis</a>, one of which is similar to yours:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]846891[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>But Homonoia, even though she holds a patera and cornucopiae, is not veiled and she wears a polos on her head. Moreover, there's no vertical object at her feet.</p><p><br /></p><p>"Lucilla Homonoia" yielded a <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Lucilla+Homonoia&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Lucilla+Homonoia&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=" rel="nofollow">single hit</a> at acsearchinfo; <a href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.aspx?search=true&searchQuery=Lucilla+Homonoia&searchQueryExclude=&searchCategory=0&searchCategoryLevel=2&searchCategoryAncient=True&searchCategoryUs=True&searchCategoryWorld=True&searchCategoryMedieval=False&searchBetween=0&searchBetweenAnd=0&searchDate=&searchUseThesaurus=True&searchDisplayCurrency=&searchDisplay=1&searchIdStore=0&searchQueryAnyWords=&searchExactPhrase=&searchTitleAndDescription=True&searchDateType=0&searchMaxRecords=100&SearchOnSale=False&Unassigned=False" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.aspx?search=true&searchQuery=Lucilla+Homonoia&searchQueryExclude=&searchCategory=0&searchCategoryLevel=2&searchCategoryAncient=True&searchCategoryUs=True&searchCategoryWorld=True&searchCategoryMedieval=False&searchBetween=0&searchBetweenAnd=0&searchDate=&searchUseThesaurus=True&searchDisplayCurrency=&searchDisplay=1&searchIdStore=0&searchQueryAnyWords=&searchExactPhrase=&searchTitleAndDescription=True&searchDateType=0&searchMaxRecords=100&SearchOnSale=False&Unassigned=False" rel="nofollow">none</a> at V Coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>I had been hoping to pull off a miracle -- IDing a provincial that [USER=56859]@TIF[/USER] couldn't -- but I can't find another example of your coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Roman Collector, post: 3237884, member: 75937"][USER=87404]@Justin Lee[/USER] -- fun project! I'm up to the challenge. The top coin is an Antonine woman for sure and, on the basis of the hairstyle, there are only two real possibilities: Faustina II or her daughter, Lucilla. Faustina II: [ATTACH=full]846884[/ATTACH] Lucilla: [ATTACH=full]846885[/ATTACH] Crispina, although she also wore a chignon at the back of the head, isn't a serious possibility; her chignon is always bigger: [ATTACH=full]846888[/ATTACH] The obverse inscription will distinguish between Faustina II and Lucilla if any of it remains: ΦΑVCΤEΙΝΑ vs ΛΟVΚΙΛΛΑ. The other question is the identity of the female deity on the reverse. I see a veiled female figure standing left, holding patera and cornucopiae. Probably an altar at her feet. This is MOST consistent with Eusebeia (Eὐσέβεια; Pietas in Latin) but Homonoia (Concordia) is a very real possibility. So, doing a search at acsearchinfo on "Faustina Eusebeia" yields [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Faustina+Eusebeia&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0¤cy=usd&company=']very little[/URL], as does the [URL='https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.aspx?search=true&searchQuery=Faustina+Eusebeia&searchQueryExclude=&searchCategory=0&searchCategoryLevel=2&searchCategoryAncient=True&searchCategoryUs=True&searchCategoryWorld=True&searchCategoryMedieval=False&searchBetween=0&searchBetweenAnd=0&searchDate=&searchUseThesaurus=True&searchDisplayCurrency=&searchDisplay=1&searchIdStore=0&searchQueryAnyWords=&searchExactPhrase=&searchTitleAndDescription=True&searchDateType=0&searchMaxRecords=100&SearchOnSale=False&Unassigned=False']same search[/URL] at V Coins. A search there for "Lucilla Eusebeia" yields [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Lucilla+Eusebeia&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0¤cy=usd&company=']even less[/URL]. Using "Lucilla Eusebeia" at V Coins was [URL='https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.aspx?search=true&searchQuery=Lucilla+Eusebeia&searchQueryExclude=&searchCategory=0&searchCategoryLevel=2&searchCategoryAncient=True&searchCategoryUs=True&searchCategoryWorld=True&searchCategoryMedieval=False&searchBetween=0&searchBetweenAnd=0&searchDate=&searchUseThesaurus=True&searchDisplayCurrency=&searchDisplay=1&searchIdStore=0&searchQueryAnyWords=&searchExactPhrase=&searchTitleAndDescription=True&searchDateType=0&searchMaxRecords=100&SearchOnSale=False&Unassigned=False']equally unproductive[/URL]. Doing a search there for "Faustina Homonoia" was [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Faustina+Homonoia&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0¤cy=usd&company=']more productive[/URL] in terms of the number of hits, but many of them are duplicates of coins from Hadrianopolis and Pautalia. The same search at V Coins yielded a [URL='https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.aspx?search=true&searchQuery=Faustina+Homonoia&searchQueryExclude=&searchCategory=0&searchCategoryLevel=2&searchCategoryAncient=True&searchCategoryUs=True&searchCategoryWorld=True&searchCategoryMedieval=False&searchBetween=0&searchBetweenAnd=0&searchDate=&searchUseThesaurus=True&searchDisplayCurrency=&searchDisplay=1&searchIdStore=0&searchQueryAnyWords=&searchExactPhrase=&searchTitleAndDescription=True&searchDateType=0&searchMaxRecords=100&SearchOnSale=False&Unassigned=False']couple from Hadrianopolis[/URL], one of which is similar to yours: [ATTACH=full]846891[/ATTACH] But Homonoia, even though she holds a patera and cornucopiae, is not veiled and she wears a polos on her head. Moreover, there's no vertical object at her feet. "Lucilla Homonoia" yielded a [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Lucilla+Homonoia&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0¤cy=usd&company=']single hit[/URL] at acsearchinfo; [URL='https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.aspx?search=true&searchQuery=Lucilla+Homonoia&searchQueryExclude=&searchCategory=0&searchCategoryLevel=2&searchCategoryAncient=True&searchCategoryUs=True&searchCategoryWorld=True&searchCategoryMedieval=False&searchBetween=0&searchBetweenAnd=0&searchDate=&searchUseThesaurus=True&searchDisplayCurrency=&searchDisplay=1&searchIdStore=0&searchQueryAnyWords=&searchExactPhrase=&searchTitleAndDescription=True&searchDateType=0&searchMaxRecords=100&SearchOnSale=False&Unassigned=False']none[/URL] at V Coins. I had been hoping to pull off a miracle -- IDing a provincial that [USER=56859]@TIF[/USER] couldn't -- but I can't find another example of your coin.[/QUOTE]
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