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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3237828, member: 56859"]It does look like Faustina Jr but there are a few reasons it isn't Alexandrian. Tetradrachms of that era had more silver than does this coin, plus the weight is wrong for a tetradrachm, even when considering the wear and corrosion. There are some Alexandrian bronze denominations for Faustina Jr but again the metal doesn't look right nor does the flan shape. Obols and diobols had a distinctive casting shape, with the margins of one side rounded and the other side sharp, from casting the flan in a shallow bowl-like depression. Also, the reverse iconography doesn't fit with any of her obol or diobol issues.</p><p><br /></p><p>The reverse seems to be a female deity or personification standing left, holding a cornucopia, and pouring from a patera over an altar. In Alexandrian coinage, that entity could be Homonoia. If the reverse is indeed Homonoia, Thrace is a possibility although the low bun on her portrait doesn't resemble the others I see in archives:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=4428&category=122754&lot=3632260" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=4428&category=122754&lot=3632260" rel="nofollow">https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=4428&category=122754&lot=3632260</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.sixbid.com/media/auction_images/4428/3632260l.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>As [USER=75937]@Roman Collector[/USER] showed us in a <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/male-and-female-deities-with-identical-attributes.322431/#post-3173005" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/male-and-female-deities-with-identical-attributes.322431/#post-3173005">recent thread</a>, there is sometimes overlap of attributes among deities. Serapis is also occasionally depicted holding a cornucopia and pouring from a patera, so that might be a search avenue for you, although I believe the reverse of your coin shows a female. Other non-female entities who sometimes hold a cornucopia and pour from a patera over an altar include Genius, Tyche, Emperors (not sure about Empresses), Harmony (on Imperials), and probably some others.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's an interesting possibility from AC search: a Faustina bronze from Samaria. The listing calls the reverse figure Tyche. Tyche is not shown full length; her body seems cut off around her knees or thereabouts. Your coin looks like it may also show a less than full length reverse standing figure, although it's difficult to tell.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4873883" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4873883" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4873883</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]846848[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Getting a firm ID on your coin is going to be difficult at best. Trying will be fun though!</p><p><br /></p><p>Today, in addition to a long list of non-fun activities, I'm going to be photographing and trying to ID a bunch of ex-BCD coins which languished unattributed in his collection. I'm really looking forward to it![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3237828, member: 56859"]It does look like Faustina Jr but there are a few reasons it isn't Alexandrian. Tetradrachms of that era had more silver than does this coin, plus the weight is wrong for a tetradrachm, even when considering the wear and corrosion. There are some Alexandrian bronze denominations for Faustina Jr but again the metal doesn't look right nor does the flan shape. Obols and diobols had a distinctive casting shape, with the margins of one side rounded and the other side sharp, from casting the flan in a shallow bowl-like depression. Also, the reverse iconography doesn't fit with any of her obol or diobol issues. The reverse seems to be a female deity or personification standing left, holding a cornucopia, and pouring from a patera over an altar. In Alexandrian coinage, that entity could be Homonoia. If the reverse is indeed Homonoia, Thrace is a possibility although the low bun on her portrait doesn't resemble the others I see in archives: [url]https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=4428&category=122754&lot=3632260[/url] [IMG]https://www.sixbid.com/media/auction_images/4428/3632260l.jpg[/IMG] As [USER=75937]@Roman Collector[/USER] showed us in a [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/male-and-female-deities-with-identical-attributes.322431/#post-3173005']recent thread[/URL], there is sometimes overlap of attributes among deities. Serapis is also occasionally depicted holding a cornucopia and pouring from a patera, so that might be a search avenue for you, although I believe the reverse of your coin shows a female. Other non-female entities who sometimes hold a cornucopia and pour from a patera over an altar include Genius, Tyche, Emperors (not sure about Empresses), Harmony (on Imperials), and probably some others. Here's an interesting possibility from AC search: a Faustina bronze from Samaria. The listing calls the reverse figure Tyche. Tyche is not shown full length; her body seems cut off around her knees or thereabouts. Your coin looks like it may also show a less than full length reverse standing figure, although it's difficult to tell. [url]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4873883[/url] [ATTACH=full]846848[/ATTACH] Getting a firm ID on your coin is going to be difficult at best. Trying will be fun though! Today, in addition to a long list of non-fun activities, I'm going to be photographing and trying to ID a bunch of ex-BCD coins which languished unattributed in his collection. I'm really looking forward to it![/QUOTE]
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