Help dating this Pontos?

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  1. Johnnie Black

    Johnnie Black Neither Gentleman Nor Scholar Supporter

    I’m trying to date this Pontos Amisos within a reasonable range. I see 111-105 and 95-85 for similar coins but don’t know for sure. Anyone have any tips?

    Attribution is somewhere around SNG BM 1154

    AE 18
    7.93g

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  3. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    hmm..idk... Mithradates VI i'm thinkin'..
     
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  4. Ryro

    Ryro "To the strongest!" Supporter

    Whenever I'm trying to date something I usually start by complimenting them and asking what they are into;)
     
  5. TIF

    TIF I am not an expert Supporter

    :D

    The fast and likely to be accurate (insofar as the current scholarship) method: Go to CNG's archives and find the most recently sold match to your coin, and copy that :D. Their catalogers are knowledgable and seem to stay current.

    The scholarly method: Go to CNG's archives and find many examples, paying attention to the most recent listings. See which references are cited. Find those books. Begin with the one most recently written; work your way back in time to other sources if needed. Hopefully some of the books are more than just inventories; maybe they'll have some hoard evidence or other means of establishing a date. If that fails, google for journal articles related to the type.
     
  6. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..Mithradates..he died old... mithradates vi 001.JPG mithradates vi 003.JPG
     
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  7. Jbruce

    Jbruce Well-Known Member

    The one I recently saw showed 100-85
     
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  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

  9. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    Ohohoho...i just got that one...big BADOOM-TISH!...Ryro(the besieger)
     
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  10. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    The OP type is HGC 7, 241 in Oliver Hoover's Handbook of Coins of Northern and Central Anatolia. Their number covers all monograms and varieties with and without the star and crescent in the upper left field (not present on yours). I'm not sure if the monograms and the control marks change the dating, but HGC goes with the following for the type: "c. 111-105 BC or c. 95-90 BC (?)". That's good enough for me. I have one from another Pontic mint.

    Pontos Chabaka - Sword in Sheath 2275.jpg
    PONTOS, Chabakta
    AE21. 8.4g, 21.2mm. PONTOS, Chabakta. Struck under Mithradates VI, circa 111-105 BC, or 95-90 BC. HGC 7, 263 (S); SNG Cop 205-6. O: Head of Ares in Attic helmet. R: XABA-KTΩN, sword in sheath; star above crescent in field, monogram to left.
     
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  11. Johnnie Black

    Johnnie Black Neither Gentleman Nor Scholar Supporter

    Thanks everyone for all of the help. Big thanks to @zumbly for sharing info from the handbook. I was wondering about the monograms and control marks, too.
     
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