Help bringing a possible overstrike into Phocas

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Ryro, Apr 24, 2019.

  1. Ryro

    Ryro You'll never be lovelier than you are now... Supporter

    I purchased this little Byzy boy years ago listed as a coin of Phocas. One issue though, I could never get an ID on it of my own. Recently, I have rededicated myself to get what I feel are as close to positive IDs on my coins. I have found that since my last foray into this rewarding and tricky part of the hobby I have a considerable amount more knowledge (thanks to, in no small part, all of you here!).
    I have looked through AC search and Wild winds with no luck finding a Phocas coin that has the emperor standing left of the large M, as is the case on my coin. But I did come across a small amount of coins of Heraclius during his revolt that were overstruck on top of Phocas coins. I am wondering if that is the case with my coin? Could this be a case of the revolting emperor covering up his enemies propaganda with some of his own?? Is my ID just totally off???
    It is a big boy, AE Follis. 29mm 9.07 gr.
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    Any help is appreciated. Please post your thoughts and coins of both Phocas and Heraclius or anything you deem relevant!
     
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  3. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    It's very likely to be over-struck. ANNO is usually to the left of denomination. Maybe the Emperor also ought to change position. I think..
     
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  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    I see Constantinople over Antioch and the Antioch has standing figures on its obverse. A darker photo might help read more. Perhaps this Phocas type contributed to the mess?
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  5. Ryro

    Ryro You'll never be lovelier than you are now... Supporter

  6. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    idk..but kool coin at any rate..:)
     
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  7. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    That is a terrific overstrike, Ryro. I really like it - good and sloppy!

    I have a couple of Heraclius overstrikes, one over a Phocas and one over a Maurice Tiberius (I think):

    Byz - Heraclius over Phocas Sep 2018 (0).jpg
    Heraclius & Her. Constantine
    Æ Follis Year 4 (613-614 A.D.)
    Constantinople Mint

    ddNNhЄRAC[LIyS ЄτhЄRACONSτPPA]; Her. & Her. Const. / M; ANNO left; II/II rt.; Chi-Rho above; Off. Δ below; CON in ex.
    Sear 805; DOC 76d
    Overstrike: Phocas follis, X, IIII, and PERAVG (SB 658-9?)
    (10.89 grams / 30 mm)

    Byzantine Heraclius over M. Tiberius Jan. 2014.jpg

    Heraclius & Her. Constantine
    Æ Follis Year 4 (613-614 A.D.)
    Constantinople Mint

    ddNNhЄRAC[LIyS ЄτhЄRACONSτPPA]; Her. & Her. Const. / M; ANNO left; II/II rt.; Chi-Rho above; Off. Δ below; CON in ex.
    Sear 805; DOC 76d
    Overstrike: Maurice Tiberius follis (582-602 A.D.).
    (10.29 grams / 28 mm)




     
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