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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 2969379, member: 85693"]Thank you Doug for those insights. I like that muffin metaphor.</p><p><br /></p><p>I too wonder to what extent people of the past paid attention to their coins. Some sources I read seem implausible to me - these sources will state with certainty that when the silver content of the denarius went from 84% under Marcus Aurelius to 80% under Commodus there was instant hoarding of the earlier issues. Gresham's Law as an absolute. </p><p><br /></p><p>I don't buy it - and I don't think hoard evidence supports this either. On the other hand, when you look at an antoninianus of Gordian III compared to one of Aurelian, there is no doubt which one is "good." Thus all those beautiful silvery Gordians that got buried. Marc Antony's legionary denarii circulated for so long because, I suspect, not only because they were somewhat debased, but also because it was such a huge, easily-recognized type. Everybody knew these were a bit "off" and it was pretty easy to separate them out of a handful of coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>People are irrational (I include myself here!) - and they are often very irrational about money. To take a more modern instance, Chinese merchants of the 19th-early-20th century did much trade in the form of foreign crown-sized dollars. These were very carefully examined and often chopmarked. It is often stated that these merchants were scientifically making their choices based on fineness and weight. This is true to some extent, but there were non-rational choices involved as well - for a century or more, a big premium was paid for 8 reales with Charles IV (1791-1811) on the obverse from Mexico. Coins of the exact same fineness and weight of Ferdinand VII (1811-1821) were not nearly as popular and heavily discounted (note the scarcity of chopped Ferdinand VII's compared to Charles IV). Charles IV 8 reales were so popular that British and US firms (and probably Chinese) manufactured them up until the 1930s (according to some theories) - not "bad metal" fakes, but full silver replicas of century-old coins. The profit margin for the Charles IV image was so great it was worth making exact copies (which plague collectors to this day - Coin Comm. Forum has some fascinating threads about this). </p><p><br /></p><p>There is no "rational" reason for this, but plenty of custom, habit, and tradition. I'd bet the Romans did the same. Were Fortuna or Spes reverses kept as lucky charms? Were good emperors similarly selected for jewelry, etc.? Who knows?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 2969379, member: 85693"]Thank you Doug for those insights. I like that muffin metaphor. I too wonder to what extent people of the past paid attention to their coins. Some sources I read seem implausible to me - these sources will state with certainty that when the silver content of the denarius went from 84% under Marcus Aurelius to 80% under Commodus there was instant hoarding of the earlier issues. Gresham's Law as an absolute. I don't buy it - and I don't think hoard evidence supports this either. On the other hand, when you look at an antoninianus of Gordian III compared to one of Aurelian, there is no doubt which one is "good." Thus all those beautiful silvery Gordians that got buried. Marc Antony's legionary denarii circulated for so long because, I suspect, not only because they were somewhat debased, but also because it was such a huge, easily-recognized type. Everybody knew these were a bit "off" and it was pretty easy to separate them out of a handful of coins. People are irrational (I include myself here!) - and they are often very irrational about money. To take a more modern instance, Chinese merchants of the 19th-early-20th century did much trade in the form of foreign crown-sized dollars. These were very carefully examined and often chopmarked. It is often stated that these merchants were scientifically making their choices based on fineness and weight. This is true to some extent, but there were non-rational choices involved as well - for a century or more, a big premium was paid for 8 reales with Charles IV (1791-1811) on the obverse from Mexico. Coins of the exact same fineness and weight of Ferdinand VII (1811-1821) were not nearly as popular and heavily discounted (note the scarcity of chopped Ferdinand VII's compared to Charles IV). Charles IV 8 reales were so popular that British and US firms (and probably Chinese) manufactured them up until the 1930s (according to some theories) - not "bad metal" fakes, but full silver replicas of century-old coins. The profit margin for the Charles IV image was so great it was worth making exact copies (which plague collectors to this day - Coin Comm. Forum has some fascinating threads about this). There is no "rational" reason for this, but plenty of custom, habit, and tradition. I'd bet the Romans did the same. Were Fortuna or Spes reverses kept as lucky charms? Were good emperors similarly selected for jewelry, etc.? Who knows?[/QUOTE]
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