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<p>[QUOTE="Dafydd, post: 2712018, member: 86815"]Many thanks all for the warm welcome and the not so good news. I guess I walked into that one! In hindsight which of course is the only precise science, why would a dealer let loose something that could be worth a lot of money without researching it.</p><p>I was fooled by the poor condition, why would someone offer a fake in such a poor state? I think I let curiosity get the better of me. I'll see what I can do to retrieve my money and fortunately it was not a lot but any money paid for a fake is not worth it. I have been involved in the antique arms business for many years as a hobby which started with my visits to the USA and I can think of some dealers who have no interest or passion in what they do and could as well sell candy bars because they are only motivated by money so often they let things slip through because they can't be bothered to research. In this instance I think that wasn't the case and my curiosity got the better of me. I can't even say that I was fooled by greed because I just thought it would be fun to try and find out what they were.</p><p>Having read the "ebay" advice on fakes I have some street sense but had never considered the possibility of people faking coins in condition that would not be seen as collectible with modern coinage. Of course this has a neat twist to it, the dealer told me emphatically that he did not know what he had so if he has a return he has a perfect excuse. I've learnt a lot in the past 24 hours thank you!</p><p>I've been collecting ancients for about a year now and started off with later Follis but now have ambitions of the Republic and twelve Caesars and specific periods such as the year of the four Caesars etc.</p><p>I'll not try any Welsh on anyone as I don't speak it, not many of us do. My father was Dutch and my mother was Welsh whose parents spoke Welsh but they call my piece of Wales ( Pembrokeshire ) "little England beyond Wales". To answer some specifics, I am about seven hours drive from Northumberland and the first coinage in Wales was actually cattle and sheep that had specific values! We didn't see coins of our own making until Medieval times although I stand to be corrected.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Dafydd, post: 2712018, member: 86815"]Many thanks all for the warm welcome and the not so good news. I guess I walked into that one! In hindsight which of course is the only precise science, why would a dealer let loose something that could be worth a lot of money without researching it. I was fooled by the poor condition, why would someone offer a fake in such a poor state? I think I let curiosity get the better of me. I'll see what I can do to retrieve my money and fortunately it was not a lot but any money paid for a fake is not worth it. I have been involved in the antique arms business for many years as a hobby which started with my visits to the USA and I can think of some dealers who have no interest or passion in what they do and could as well sell candy bars because they are only motivated by money so often they let things slip through because they can't be bothered to research. In this instance I think that wasn't the case and my curiosity got the better of me. I can't even say that I was fooled by greed because I just thought it would be fun to try and find out what they were. Having read the "ebay" advice on fakes I have some street sense but had never considered the possibility of people faking coins in condition that would not be seen as collectible with modern coinage. Of course this has a neat twist to it, the dealer told me emphatically that he did not know what he had so if he has a return he has a perfect excuse. I've learnt a lot in the past 24 hours thank you! I've been collecting ancients for about a year now and started off with later Follis but now have ambitions of the Republic and twelve Caesars and specific periods such as the year of the four Caesars etc. I'll not try any Welsh on anyone as I don't speak it, not many of us do. My father was Dutch and my mother was Welsh whose parents spoke Welsh but they call my piece of Wales ( Pembrokeshire ) "little England beyond Wales". To answer some specifics, I am about seven hours drive from Northumberland and the first coinage in Wales was actually cattle and sheep that had specific values! We didn't see coins of our own making until Medieval times although I stand to be corrected.[/QUOTE]
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