Helios 3/4 facing with a full nose. Yowsa Yowsa Yowsa

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  1. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    A picture is worth more than 1,000 words:
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    I’m calling out to all you Rhodes Scholars at CT. :) I’d sure appreciate your opinions & edits. I'm calling the little lady holding the torch on the reverse Artemis. Do you all think it is Artemis? I’m also stuck on the letters above the rose. It looks like MNΛΣΙΜΛΝΟΣ. The N shows artifacts that may make the N either an X or a Y.

    Here is my current descriptive coin label:
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    CARIAN ISLANDS, Rhodes.
    AR Didrachm.
    c. 250-230 B.C.

    6.76 grams, 20 mm.
    Obv: Helios radiant head 3/4 facing
    slightly right
    Rev: Rose Blossom with long stem
    rose to right and Artemis
    holding torch to left,
    MNΛΣΙΜΛΝΟΣ above
    Grade: Choice AU per NGC.
    Bright coin with a full pointed
    nose on Helios.
    Other: Similar to Helsinki 534.
    From EAC 7/15/18




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  3. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing Supporter

    Beautiful coin!

    Haha, nice! It reminded me of this:
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    Another nice Rhodes for your collection :)

    Heritage called the figure Athena. Other listings are more specific, naming Athena Nikephoros, so I guess that thing she's holding is a statue of Nike? In the larger HA images you can see a hint of the statue she holds.

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    Other examples (the think she's holding isn't very clear on the ones I saw):

    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3059318
    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3059318

    It's been a while since we've had a Totally Looks Like... on this coin Helios totally looks like a wild-haired Salvador Dali :D

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    You have another Helios in the TLL gallery-- a classic :)

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  5. Nice pick up.
    I believe the Magistrate on your coin is read as MNAΣIMAXOΣ "M'nasimachos;" as compared to MNΛΣΙΜΛΝΟΣ, which wouldn't read correctly; "M'nlsimlnos." Though your Alphas do look like Lambdas and your Chi is missing a leg.
    See this example for reference:
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    (Cited: https://coins.ha.com/itm/greek/anci...-25001.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515)


    I enjoy the relief on mine.
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    Caria, Rhodes. 229-205 BC. AR Didrachm. Ameinias, magistrate. Radiate head of Helios facing slightly right / Rose, POΔION above; bud to right; ship’s stern to left, AMEINI-AΣ flanking stem. Ashton 217; SNG Keckman 543; SNG Copenhagen 759 19.7mm 6.72g.

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  6. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    It's like a sculpture! Fantastic :)
     
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  7. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    Set them free!
     
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  8. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Love those coins! Here's mine, not as nosey and no Athena but...
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    Islands off Caria, Rhodes.
    AR Didrachm, 21mm, 6.6 g, 12h; c. 305-275 BC
    Obv.: Head of Helios facing slightly right.
    Rev.: Rose with bud to right; E and grape bunch to left.
     
  9. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander Blame my mother. Supporter

    It seems we all get a kick out of the relief on our Rhodian didrachms. :) My nose isn't quite as pointy but I still like it.

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  10. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Very nice


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    Rhodos, Carian Islands, c. 188 - 84 B.C.
    Silver hemidrachm, cf. SNG Keckman 642 ff. (various magistrates and control symbols)Dexikrates, Fine/Fair, scratches, underweight (perhaps imitative), 0.905g, 13.0mm, 135o, Rhodos (Rhodes) mint, c. 188 - 84 B.C.; obverse radiate head of Helios facing slightly right; reverse rose with bud to right, P-O in fields, magistrates name above,ΔΕΞΙΚΡΑΤΗΣ, control symbol lower left, all within a shallow square incuse;
     
  11. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Wow, you found my coin in the Heritage archives. That's really cool and it gives me all the information for which I was struggling.

    Here is the new coin label with edits from the Heritage listing & iamtiberius

    CARIAN ISLANDS, Rhodes.
    AR Didrachm.
    c. 250-200 B.C.

    6.76 grams, 20 mm.
    Obv: Helios radiant head 3/4 facing
    slightly right
    Rev: Rose Blossom with long stem
    rose to right and Athena
    holding petite statue of Nike
    to left. MNAΣΙΜAXΟΣ above
    Grade: NGC Choice AU 5/5 - 3/5.
    Bright, sharply struck coin with
    satiny surfaces and full
    pointed nose on Helios.
    Other: Mnasimachos, magistrate
    Ashton 208. SNG Keckman
    537-539. Similar to Wildwinds
    Hel. 534. Heritage 3064 4-20-18
    lot #32138. From EAC 7/15/18
    Heritage Obv.jpg
    Heritage Rev.jpg
     
  12. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    I merely noticed it on ACsearch while looking to see what various auction houses call the reverse figure on these coins :)
     
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