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<p>[QUOTE="lrbguy, post: 3084032, member: 88829"]Your wish is to be fulfilled and then some. My first contribution to this thread for Helena will be a style show of her hairstyles on the reduced folles for the various mints; i.e. 14 of 15 with the exception of London. The design for each of these is a variant on a common style designated by Patrick Bruun as “E10” in RIC VII. Within each mint the coins are here arranged chronologically by series* but only where the bust design showed a noticeable difference in hairstyle. Many of the differences are quite subtle, within a mint as well as between mints, but in some cases the styles are quite distinctive.</p><p><br /></p><p>…………*Series dates are differentiated by style of mintmark.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>A Word about Order</p><p><br /></p><p>Mints are listed from west to east following the order in RIC VII. In each case I indicate the range of dates coins were produced for Helena at that mint, then note the number of production series known, and give the catalog numbers for any entries missing from this display. Then I show the entries for each series in chronological order and give the catalog reference, mint mark characteristics, and date of issue for each coin shown. I use written comments to call attention to specific features. </p><p><br /></p><p>Due to the system limit of 10 images per post more than one post will be needed to complete the initial listing. </p><p><br /></p><p>By this listing I hope list members can more easily recognize when they have a design type not yet listed here and add it to our “collection.” My hope is that this will stimulate you to seek out good examples of the missing coins and bring them to our attention. In any case, please add whatever examples of these reduced folles you have, and tell us about them.</p><p><br /></p><p>We start with the whole group of western mints that struck folles for Helena.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Londonium/London (324-325)</b></p><p><br /></p><p>(missing: RIC299 ) One series issued, seldom in market</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Lugdunum/Lyons (324-325)</b></p><p><br /></p><p>One series, as here. Her hair is simply combed back and combed under at the base, then secured with a banded diadem with a ladder-like segmentation. A row of bangs hang across the front below the diadem.</p><p><br /></p><p>RIC 234 (PLG) 324-25</p><p>[ATTACH=full]777076[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Treveri/Trier (324-328)</b></p><p>Missing:RIC458, 465, 515</p><p><br /></p><p>Two of five series represented here. In both of these the hair appears to be covered by an open cap with a high well defined crest, and a prominent base which might also serve as a diadem.</p><p><br /></p><p>Series 3: Our first example is from the third series, in which the crest resembles a laurel band with an arc of pearls beneath it. The hair has only a shallow loop at ear level. The diadem is banded with two rows of dots (pearls).</p><p>RIC 481 (STRdot/crescent) 326</p><p>[ATTACH=full]777077[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Series 4: Here the crest appears as a cap with laurel decoration and bounded by pearls all around. This “cap” extends down the neck to the ear and forward beyond the diadem. The diadem is a plain band with a row of pearls in it.</p><p>RIC 508 (STRE) 327-28</p><p>[ATTACH=full]777080[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Arelate/Arles (324-329)</b></p><p>Missing: RIC278, 317, 324, 340</p><p><br /></p><p>Series 2: Hairstyle, not crested, curves around to the neck, with “ladder”-style band diadem, with or without dots, and bangs grouped below the diadem.</p><p>RIC 299 (TAcresentRL) 325-26</p><p>[ATTACH=full]777082[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Series 3: Same hairstyle as series 2.</p><p>RIC 307 (S F/TARL) 326-27</p><p>[ATTACH=full]777083[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Rome (324-326)</b></p><p>Missing: RIC270</p><p><br /></p><p>Series 2: coarsely braided crest arches over other hair to back of neck and curves back to ear. Diadem band “laddered” with dot in each cell. Rosette centered in front.</p><p>RIC 291 (RwreathQ) 326</p><p>[ATTACH=full]777084[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Ticinum (325-327)</b></p><p>Missing: RIC209</p><p>Three series with high arching crest and simple diadem.</p><p><br /></p><p>Series 1:Moderate double crest of braids arches to diadem, below is a looping queue. Grouped bangs across front. Diadem is a single strand of pearls; no front decoration. Earring.</p><p>RIC 190 (TT) 325</p><p>[ATTACH=full]777085[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Series 2: High double crest of braids arches to diadem, below is a looping queue. Grouped bangs across front. Diadem is a single strand of pearls; prominent rosette; grouped bangs below diadem. Earring.</p><p>RIC 202 (QcrescentT) 326</p><p>[ATTACH=full]777086[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>(Proceed to pt2 - the first of the Eastern mints)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="lrbguy, post: 3084032, member: 88829"]Your wish is to be fulfilled and then some. My first contribution to this thread for Helena will be a style show of her hairstyles on the reduced folles for the various mints; i.e. 14 of 15 with the exception of London. The design for each of these is a variant on a common style designated by Patrick Bruun as “E10” in RIC VII. Within each mint the coins are here arranged chronologically by series* but only where the bust design showed a noticeable difference in hairstyle. Many of the differences are quite subtle, within a mint as well as between mints, but in some cases the styles are quite distinctive. …………*Series dates are differentiated by style of mintmark. A Word about Order Mints are listed from west to east following the order in RIC VII. In each case I indicate the range of dates coins were produced for Helena at that mint, then note the number of production series known, and give the catalog numbers for any entries missing from this display. Then I show the entries for each series in chronological order and give the catalog reference, mint mark characteristics, and date of issue for each coin shown. I use written comments to call attention to specific features. Due to the system limit of 10 images per post more than one post will be needed to complete the initial listing. By this listing I hope list members can more easily recognize when they have a design type not yet listed here and add it to our “collection.” My hope is that this will stimulate you to seek out good examples of the missing coins and bring them to our attention. In any case, please add whatever examples of these reduced folles you have, and tell us about them. We start with the whole group of western mints that struck folles for Helena. [B]Londonium/London (324-325)[/B] (missing: RIC299 ) One series issued, seldom in market [B]Lugdunum/Lyons (324-325)[/B] One series, as here. Her hair is simply combed back and combed under at the base, then secured with a banded diadem with a ladder-like segmentation. A row of bangs hang across the front below the diadem. RIC 234 (PLG) 324-25 [ATTACH=full]777076[/ATTACH] [B]Treveri/Trier (324-328)[/B] Missing:RIC458, 465, 515 Two of five series represented here. In both of these the hair appears to be covered by an open cap with a high well defined crest, and a prominent base which might also serve as a diadem. Series 3: Our first example is from the third series, in which the crest resembles a laurel band with an arc of pearls beneath it. The hair has only a shallow loop at ear level. The diadem is banded with two rows of dots (pearls). RIC 481 (STRdot/crescent) 326 [ATTACH=full]777077[/ATTACH] Series 4: Here the crest appears as a cap with laurel decoration and bounded by pearls all around. This “cap” extends down the neck to the ear and forward beyond the diadem. The diadem is a plain band with a row of pearls in it. RIC 508 (STRE) 327-28 [ATTACH=full]777080[/ATTACH] [B]Arelate/Arles (324-329)[/B] Missing: RIC278, 317, 324, 340 Series 2: Hairstyle, not crested, curves around to the neck, with “ladder”-style band diadem, with or without dots, and bangs grouped below the diadem. RIC 299 (TAcresentRL) 325-26 [ATTACH=full]777082[/ATTACH] Series 3: Same hairstyle as series 2. RIC 307 (S F/TARL) 326-27 [ATTACH=full]777083[/ATTACH] [B]Rome (324-326)[/B] Missing: RIC270 Series 2: coarsely braided crest arches over other hair to back of neck and curves back to ear. Diadem band “laddered” with dot in each cell. Rosette centered in front. RIC 291 (RwreathQ) 326 [ATTACH=full]777084[/ATTACH] [B]Ticinum (325-327)[/B] Missing: RIC209 Three series with high arching crest and simple diadem. Series 1:Moderate double crest of braids arches to diadem, below is a looping queue. Grouped bangs across front. Diadem is a single strand of pearls; no front decoration. Earring. RIC 190 (TT) 325 [ATTACH=full]777085[/ATTACH] Series 2: High double crest of braids arches to diadem, below is a looping queue. Grouped bangs across front. Diadem is a single strand of pearls; prominent rosette; grouped bangs below diadem. Earring. RIC 202 (QcrescentT) 326 [ATTACH=full]777086[/ATTACH] (Proceed to pt2 - the first of the Eastern mints)[/QUOTE]
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