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<p>[QUOTE="pasasap2, post: 2124459, member: 57975"]Well, I had the local Large Cent expert take a look, and this is what he had to say about the coins.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>He said the first coin is N-7, the second is N-15, the third is N-8, and the last one is N-16.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>He had the advantage of having the coins in his hands, so I think that helped. My photos were okay, but not perfect (sorry). The third coin is N-8 because the break was visible just right of the top of the 1, and just below the base of the 1 to the rim. He noted the metal crumbling on the right side of the 1 at top as an indication of the presence of the die crack. He also said he could make it out, but it was very faint. He said the distance of the 5 to the curl was also less than what is found on N-7, and the curl is more even with the left side of the 5, and it is more right on N-7.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I thought the first and third coins looked different to me just based on the position of the 5 in relationship to the curl, but I am not an expert.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The last coin was a bit harder to identify. The die break found above OF AMERICA is not clearly visible on my coin. There is a weak break, but it was so badly worn that he said he could not confirm that it was a die break at all. He said that everything else matches N-16, but the most important factor was the thickness of the N's in ONE CENT. I said it had been suggested that it could be N-14, but he said the curl would be farther to the right of the number 5, and the N's do not match.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is a dealer that sells only Large Cents by variety, but he also warned me that this was just his personal opinion, and he could be wrong. He normally does not sell Large Cents below XF for coins dating 1835 to 1857, and he specializes in Sheldon Varieties (early dates), not Newcomb.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I got my photos mixed up. The first coin was the one I also thought was N-7, the second N-15, and the third N-8. The last coin was the one I did not have any idea or even a guess. My attribution guide stops at 1835, and does not include the Head of 1836, so I was trying to use the photos of known coins online. The problem was finding photos large enough to actually use to compare for some of the varieties.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I do not collect by Newcomb varieties, but I wanted to label the coins correctly in my album. So, I am going with N-7, N-15, N-8, and N-16? for the album.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The Head of 1836 for the date 1835 are tough to identify. I guess that is why they left them out of my attribution guide. Thank you so much for all your help.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="pasasap2, post: 2124459, member: 57975"]Well, I had the local Large Cent expert take a look, and this is what he had to say about the coins. He said the first coin is N-7, the second is N-15, the third is N-8, and the last one is N-16. He had the advantage of having the coins in his hands, so I think that helped. My photos were okay, but not perfect (sorry). The third coin is N-8 because the break was visible just right of the top of the 1, and just below the base of the 1 to the rim. He noted the metal crumbling on the right side of the 1 at top as an indication of the presence of the die crack. He also said he could make it out, but it was very faint. He said the distance of the 5 to the curl was also less than what is found on N-7, and the curl is more even with the left side of the 5, and it is more right on N-7. I thought the first and third coins looked different to me just based on the position of the 5 in relationship to the curl, but I am not an expert. The last coin was a bit harder to identify. The die break found above OF AMERICA is not clearly visible on my coin. There is a weak break, but it was so badly worn that he said he could not confirm that it was a die break at all. He said that everything else matches N-16, but the most important factor was the thickness of the N's in ONE CENT. I said it had been suggested that it could be N-14, but he said the curl would be farther to the right of the number 5, and the N's do not match. This is a dealer that sells only Large Cents by variety, but he also warned me that this was just his personal opinion, and he could be wrong. He normally does not sell Large Cents below XF for coins dating 1835 to 1857, and he specializes in Sheldon Varieties (early dates), not Newcomb. I got my photos mixed up. The first coin was the one I also thought was N-7, the second N-15, and the third N-8. The last coin was the one I did not have any idea or even a guess. My attribution guide stops at 1835, and does not include the Head of 1836, so I was trying to use the photos of known coins online. The problem was finding photos large enough to actually use to compare for some of the varieties. I do not collect by Newcomb varieties, but I wanted to label the coins correctly in my album. So, I am going with N-7, N-15, N-8, and N-16? for the album. The Head of 1836 for the date 1835 are tough to identify. I guess that is why they left them out of my attribution guide. Thank you so much for all your help.[/QUOTE]
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