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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 1374554, member: 66"]Actually his budget proposal included language to allow the mint to research for material to make such a change. The same legislation he signed last year and the same authority they have always had. They still have to have Congressional approval to actually make any changes to the coins. (The final report on proposed new alloys is supposed to be ready at the end of 2012. They will probably spend 2013 debating them so I don't see any real changes until 2014.)</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes but cost more than one cent to make not not including the cost of materials.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Or down.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Why? Since the rounding would occur AFTER the sales tax is applied prices could still end in .99 After all we don't have mil coins but gasoline is still priced in mils.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Why? There is no reason why sales tax rates would change. There are areas of the country that have rates such as 8 1/2% or 8 1/4% but we don't have half cents or quarter cent pieces. The taxes are figured and then rounded up or down to the nearest cent. If they eliminate cents prices will be totaled, your 6% tax rate will be applied and the total rounded up or down to the nearest 5 cent. They already do this with your 6% rate except they round up or down to the nearest cent. (And yes sometimes it is rounded DOWN) The tax rate will not change. If a state tries to use this as an excuse to make such a change they are just trying to rip you off.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Then it is a waste of time. The cent currently costs 2.41 cents to produce, .43 cents of that is the cost of materials. So even if the cost of materials was totally free it would still cost 1.98 cents to make each cent. It is IMPOSSIBLE to stop the cent from being a money loser unless you sell advertising space on it.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You can do that for the five cent but you have a new problem, they won't work in current vending machines. Every machine will have to have a new coin mechanism. Or be set to refuse five cent pieces.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>If you chack the laws relating to it you will find it is always referred to as a five cent piece.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Not immediately but once the cents disappear from circulation they will probably make it legal again since there will be no reason to try and protect them.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Nope</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Nah, we'll leave the candy bar priced at .99 X 1.06 = 1.0498 and round it to $1.05 And right now if you buy something that costs $1.05 with tax it comes to $1.113 They don't round that up to $1.12 do they? No they round it DOWN to $1.11 because they know it will be made up on other amounts where the tax amount ends in .005 or higher which will round up. The same thing will happen to the nearest five cent with rounding both up and down.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 1374554, member: 66"]Actually his budget proposal included language to allow the mint to research for material to make such a change. The same legislation he signed last year and the same authority they have always had. They still have to have Congressional approval to actually make any changes to the coins. (The final report on proposed new alloys is supposed to be ready at the end of 2012. They will probably spend 2013 debating them so I don't see any real changes until 2014.) Yes but cost more than one cent to make not not including the cost of materials. Or down. Why? Since the rounding would occur AFTER the sales tax is applied prices could still end in .99 After all we don't have mil coins but gasoline is still priced in mils. Why? There is no reason why sales tax rates would change. There are areas of the country that have rates such as 8 1/2% or 8 1/4% but we don't have half cents or quarter cent pieces. The taxes are figured and then rounded up or down to the nearest cent. If they eliminate cents prices will be totaled, your 6% tax rate will be applied and the total rounded up or down to the nearest 5 cent. They already do this with your 6% rate except they round up or down to the nearest cent. (And yes sometimes it is rounded DOWN) The tax rate will not change. If a state tries to use this as an excuse to make such a change they are just trying to rip you off. Then it is a waste of time. The cent currently costs 2.41 cents to produce, .43 cents of that is the cost of materials. So even if the cost of materials was totally free it would still cost 1.98 cents to make each cent. It is IMPOSSIBLE to stop the cent from being a money loser unless you sell advertising space on it. You can do that for the five cent but you have a new problem, they won't work in current vending machines. Every machine will have to have a new coin mechanism. Or be set to refuse five cent pieces. If you chack the laws relating to it you will find it is always referred to as a five cent piece. Not immediately but once the cents disappear from circulation they will probably make it legal again since there will be no reason to try and protect them. Nope Nah, we'll leave the candy bar priced at .99 X 1.06 = 1.0498 and round it to $1.05 And right now if you buy something that costs $1.05 with tax it comes to $1.113 They don't round that up to $1.12 do they? No they round it DOWN to $1.11 because they know it will be made up on other amounts where the tax amount ends in .005 or higher which will round up. The same thing will happen to the nearest five cent with rounding both up and down.[/QUOTE]
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