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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;svessien, post: 6226781, member: 15481&quot;]Thanks you VGO! That’s nice of you to say, even if I got at least hold/held wrong this time (duh) <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I’m glad you mention Kirkegaard. He’s with me daily. I work in an emergency institution for juveniles that are placed there because of drugs and crime. (No, it’s not like juvenile hall). I’ve been into this kind of work for around 25 years now. The daily mantra is Kirkegaard:</p><p><br /></p><p><i>If One Is Truly to Succeed in Leading a Person to a Specific Place, One Must First and Foremost Take Care to Find Him Where He is and Begin There.</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>This is the secret in the entire art of helping.</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>Anyone who cannot do this is himself under a delusion if he thinks he is able to help someone else. In order truly to help someone else, I must understand more than he–but certainly first and foremost understand what he understands.</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>If I do not do that, then my greater understanding does not help him at all. If I nevertheless want to assert my greater understanding, then it is because I am vain or proud, then basically instead of benefiting him I really want to be admired by him.</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>But all true helping begins with a humbling.</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>The helper must first humble himself under the person he wants to help and thereby understand that to help is not to dominate but to serve, that to help is a not to be the most dominating but the most patient, that to help is a willingness for the time being to put up with being in the wrong and not understanding what the other understands.</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p>This can of course be applied to coin cleaning too..[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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